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Old 02-03-2004, 08:19 AM
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i met him in person too, he was nice to my face
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we kept bumping into rob at sevenstock 4, he's a cool guy.
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Old 02-03-2004, 01:21 PM
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I have never said he is not a bad guy to talk to, its just HARD as HELL to get ahold of him one of his engines has a problem. I llok forward to metting him in person
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Originally Posted by Judge Ito' date='Jan 16 2004, 05:12 AM
Thats exactly my point. And thats the reason I have decided to help the online community. I have learned to build super reliable engines. weather they are an extended port or a wild and crazy port and still pull many good years of reliability with the right tunning out of my engines. Sometimes you have no control over bad tunning or a failure in a different aspects of the vehicle(like low fuel pressure causing a lean condition) but atleast the engine is not falling apart because the ports were not properly made and checked for proper seal clearance.
ok, so it's possible to build a really reliable turbocharged rotarty. now is it also possible to build one that is more fuel efficient. i'm asking cause other than the unreliability the thing i hate most about rotaries is that they drink like fish.
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That's funny because fish don't drink gasoline, or even petrol. They don't really even drink water for that matter.
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there is sure alot of **** talking about Rob here,i'm at his shop usually 3 or four times a week,he backs up everything he builds,mabye the people who are posting these threads are b.sing about what they spent or what a=was expected from Pineapple Racing,i know a couple of customers who fucked up their engines but didn;t want to admit it but rather put the blame on the engine builder,that's a chickenshit way to be,if you **** something up,at least have the ***** to say yah i fucked up,but then that would cost you more money than you already spent,so make it look like your the victim.I've known Rob for ten years,before he had an official shop,the reason i'm still playing with rotaries is because of him,i have numerous toys that he built engine for,my RX-3 runs a P-port 13b,i've been beeting on it for 4 years now,0 problems,well no engine problems anyway.one of uor local fd buddies is pushing 600rwh@25psi,i can give lots of phone numbers of happy customers,i'm not saying Rob is the master of engine builders,he has made mistakes in the past but he has always stood behind his stuff,like i said there is always 2 sides to any story,some of the pix posted here look familiar,but some don't.Rob will be posting his own repies in a few days,i just happened to spot this thread,adn replied from my own experience with the shop and Rob,the sad thing is that people here tend to act like one bad thing happened,it's always going to happen,it'slike credit,onceyou are late on one payment you are a bad risk,so please keep in mind the stuff that is posted here,to take it with a grain of salt.
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Old 02-18-2004, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by QuickSP' date='Feb 18 2004, 09:02 AM
there is sure alot of **** talking about Rob here,i'm at his shop usually 3 or four times a week,he backs up everything he builds,mabye the people who are posting these threads are b.sing about what they spent or what a=was expected from Pineapple Racing,i know a couple of customers who fucked up their engines but didn;t want to admit it but rather put the blame on the engine builder,that's a chickenshit way to be,if you **** something up,at least have the ***** to say yah i fucked up,but then that would cost you more money than you already spent,so make it look like your the victim.I've known Rob for ten years,before he had an official shop,the reason i'm still playing with rotaries is because of him,i have numerous toys that he built engine for,my RX-3 runs a P-port 13b,i've been beeting on it for 4 years now,0 problems,well no engine problems anyway.one of uor local fd buddies is pushing 600rwh@25psi,i can give lots of phone numbers of happy customers,i'm not saying Rob is the master of engine builders,he has made mistakes in the past but he has always stood behind his stuff,like i said there is always 2 sides to any story,some of the pix posted here look familiar,but some don't.Rob will be posting his own repies in a few days,i just happened to spot this thread,adn replied from my own experience with the shop and Rob,the sad thing is that people here tend to act like one bad thing happened,it's always going to happen,it'slike credit,onceyou are late on one payment you are a bad risk,so please keep in mind the stuff that is posted here,to take it with a grain of salt.
I don't have anything negative to say about any shop or engine builder in our rotary engine world that we live in. To the contrary I come and visit online forums to help unconditionally. I'm not defending myself or Rob. I try to be impartial to every situation I see. But when an engine chews up sideseals because a large streetport was performed, the only person that could take the blame for that is the engine builder. Pictures in this thread show engine failure due to sideseals getting smashed into the closing sharp edge of the ports. Thats why I made my sideseal clearance and reliabiliy thread addressing this problem with large streetports. Basically the engine should have never chewed up sideseals if proper attention would have been payed to protect the sideseals when closing the large intake port.
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Originally Posted by QuickSP' date='Feb 18 2004, 01:02 AM
there is sure alot of **** talking about Rob here,i'm at his shop usually 3 or four times a week,he backs up everything he builds,mabye the people who are posting these threads are b.sing about what they spent or what a=was expected from Pineapple Racing,i know a couple of customers who fucked up their engines but didn;t want to admit it but rather put the blame on the engine builder,that's a chickenshit way to be,if you **** something up,at least have the ***** to say yah i fucked up,but then that would cost you more money than you already spent,so make it look like your the victim.I've known Rob for ten years,before he had an official shop,the reason i'm still playing with rotaries is because of him,i have numerous toys that he built engine for,my RX-3 runs a P-port 13b,i've been beeting on it for 4 years now,0 problems,well no engine problems anyway.one of uor local fd buddies is pushing 600rwh@25psi,i can give lots of phone numbers of happy customers,i'm not saying Rob is the master of engine builders,he has made mistakes in the past but he has always stood behind his stuff,like i said there is always 2 sides to any story,some of the pix posted here look familiar,but some don't.Rob will be posting his own repies in a few days,i just happened to spot this thread,adn replied from my own experience with the shop and Rob,the sad thing is that people here tend to act like one bad thing happened,it's always going to happen,it'slike credit,onceyou are late on one payment you are a bad risk,so please keep in mind the stuff that is posted here,to take it with a grain of salt.
We eagerly await your buddy, Rob's reply. Funny how someone can live in denial even with evidience of crap in their face. I figured some blind faithful would come out and accuse us of posting false picutres - like I have nothing better to do while working to pay off debt for this pile of crap. I'm sure my experience would have been much different if I could drive down the street to PR and didn't live on the other side of the country.



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O.K if i need to point out the obvious,so be it.in pic 1,this has had water in it for a while,you can see the rusty outline were the rotor stopped(old engine),pic 2 also older engine,rust in exh port,the gauge on the edge of housing says that not only is it a old motor but on this engine,the apex seals were put in backwards,that edge sould be on the other side,or the rear of motor.pic 3this rotor is out of a high mile engine as well.pic 4,this rotor got extremly hot (full throttle lean ?)pic 5 funny you say this engine had blowby &low oil pressure.this motor was never put in the car,you see those red blockoff plugs,the motor never ran so how could it have low pressure,or blowby?. pic 6 any of you port perfectly steady,maby you use a cnc mill,that would be perfect right?.pic 7 you say this engine died from side seal strike,is it possible some debris dislodged from intake during accessory installation,oh wait the engine was never run.pic8not a good pic,i see what looks like a reflection from the flash of the camera,and the stationary gear is rusty,this is not the way things leave Rob's shop,it doesn't happen.pic 9,burs sicking up are one thing but low spots while don't look perfect don't hinder performance.i could go on but i don't think it would change the way you feel,one more thing,yousay he sent you three engines?did you pay forall of them?ordid he send you two under warranty?something for everyone to think about before bashing .
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Originally Posted by QuickSP' date='Feb 19 2004, 07:58 AM
O.K if i need to point out the obvious,so be it.in pic 1,this has had water in it for a while,you can see the rusty outline were the rotor stopped(old engine),pic 2 also older engine,rust in exh port,the gauge on the edge of housing says that not only is it a old motor but on this engine,the apex seals were put in backwards,that edge sould be on the other side,or the rear of motor.pic 3this rotor is out of a high mile engine as well.pic 4,this rotor got extremly hot (full throttle lean ?)pic 5 funny you say this engine had blowby &low oil pressure.this motor was never put in the car,you see those red blockoff plugs,the motor never ran so how could it have low pressure,or blowby?. pic 6 any of you port perfectly steady,maby you use a cnc mill,that would be perfect right?.pic 7 you say this engine died from side seal strike,is it possible some debris dislodged from intake during accessory installation,oh wait the engine was never run.pic8not a good pic,i see what looks like a reflection from the flash of the camera,and the stationary gear is rusty,this is not the way things leave Rob's shop,it doesn't happen.pic 9,burs sicking up are one thing but low spots while don't look perfect don't hinder performance.i could go on but i don't think it would change the way you feel,one more thing,yousay he sent you three engines?did you pay forall of them?ordid he send you two under warranty?something for everyone to think about before bashing .
By this comment you have written here. I could tell you are not an engine builder and find yourself being defensive and not objective. You claim people need a CNC machine to get a near perfect port? Wrong!!! Your making all kinds of false claims instead of being honest and addressing the issue. The sideseal damage that was done was the cause of in-proper sideseal clearance when a large streetport is done. Read my thread PINNED on this issue. I'm going to step back since I did not spend or lost money here but I just wanted to give my honest opinion about this matter. Nothing personal against the people involved in this situation.
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