Did Steering Mod
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Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 925
From: Honolulu, Hawaii USA
Uh, how were the original pair of pictures taken?
Did you realign the front between the two?
I could never understand what shimming the tie rod could help.
All is does is shift the tie rod outward, but when you realign everything back to stock, it don't do jack ****?
I can understand if you do not realign the tires after the mod, but you end up with ungodly toe-out afterwards???
-Ted
Did you realign the front between the two?
I could never understand what shimming the tie rod could help.
All is does is shift the tie rod outward, but when you realign everything back to stock, it don't do jack ****?
I can understand if you do not realign the tires after the mod, but you end up with ungodly toe-out afterwards???
-Ted
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Joined: Oct 2002
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From: Memphis, Japan
This is the thread about some of this.
redoing the alingment would be a good idea but it will not change your toe settings.
The spacer trick done with a specific sized washer was confusing until I saw how it works. It's actually quite simple.
Picture where the tie rod screws into the steering rack. The tie rod has about 2" of thread there. Well, unscrew it from the rack, add the washer which is about a half inch wide but small enough diameter to fit inside the rack. So now instead of the bump stop hitting the rack at the normal spot, the tie rod moves inside the rack a 1/2" more before the bump stop of the tie rod hits the rack.
Picture where the tie rod screws into the steering rack. The tie rod has about 2" of thread there. Well, unscrew it from the rack, add the washer which is about a half inch wide but small enough diameter to fit inside the rack. So now instead of the bump stop hitting the rack at the normal spot, the tie rod moves inside the rack a 1/2" more before the bump stop of the tie rod hits the rack.
redoing the alingment would be a good idea but it will not change your toe settings.
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From: Honolulu, Hawaii USA
I'm still confused... 
All you end up doing is moving the (spherical?) joint outwards.
When you realign the toe on the steering tie rods, it all gets adjusted back in (to the same dimensions).
If you're running the same alignments before and after, the angles should still be the same???
-Ted
All you end up doing is moving the (spherical?) joint outwards.
When you realign the toe on the steering tie rods, it all gets adjusted back in (to the same dimensions).
If you're running the same alignments before and after, the angles should still be the same???
-Ted
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Joined: Sep 2002
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From: Savannah, Ga
Ted, it sounds like it moves the bumpstop inside the rack, so there is more travel within the rack.
Anyone have the instructions for this that are more detailed than just that pic? Maybe a how-to?
Anyone have the instructions for this that are more detailed than just that pic? Maybe a how-to?
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Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 147
The part where the tie rod threads into the rack is what limits the amount of travel the rack has. The tie rod itself is the bump stop. So when you add a spacer, you will have more travel before the tie rod hits. The spacer can only be so big before you run out of threads or teeth in the rack itself. You will have to get an alignment if you add a spacer, as it changes your toe settings.
