u guys ready for $4 a gallon?
08-09-2006, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Rob x-7' post='832028' date='Aug 9 2006, 06:56 AM
this guy actually produced more electric then he needed at sometime, I think there is a way the electric company takes it back and you get credit for what you dont use
there is also the matter of a large increase in your homeowners insurance to cover the equipment sitting on the roof.
I dont know that they would even insure them here.
08-09-2006, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by phinsup' post='832041' date='Aug 9 2006, 07:08 AM
Yea they could just add that shortage to the deficet. Look GW looked into it and he assured us there is no gouging, so I dunno what you guys are complaining about.
oh, he did? why didn't you say so?
08-09-2006, 10:56 AM
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It's magic, there's plenty of oil to burn, the alterior motive is to inconvenience the middle east out of thier sources of oil and put them back on camels, living in huts. Our government figured out how it can make it's own oil companies rich in the process under the illusion of an oil crisis conflict, and continues to exploit it to the fullest. The media simply adds "fuel" to the fire. Im guessing if someone dug far enough into it, alternative energy companies, auto manufacturers and the like are receiving healthy amounts of incentives (tax brakes, kickbacks) to boost production to add to the illusion.
Doesn't anyone else find it hard to believe that a fuel source millions of years in the making is suddenly nearing no longer existing in right around 100 hundred years?
Doesn't anyone else find it hard to believe that a fuel source millions of years in the making is suddenly nearing no longer existing in right around 100 hundred years?
08-09-2006, 11:05 AM
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I'd believe it's getting more difficult to find new oil pockets, and that increased demand is taxing our delivery infrastructure. I don't, however, think that we're so low on resources that we need to wage war to protect it.
08-09-2006, 11:18 AM
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Looking at the two energy crises of 1973 and 1979, we find some common elements between the two. Both events:
1. started with political turmoil in some of the oil producing countries.
2. were associated with low oil stocks.
3. were associated with high import concentration from a small number of suppliers.
4. were associated with declining US petroleum production.
5. were associated with high dependency on oil imports.
6. were associated with low level of oil industry spending
7. led to speculation
8. caused an economic downturn
9. limited US policy options in the Middle East
1. started with political turmoil in some of the oil producing countries.
2. were associated with low oil stocks.
3. were associated with high import concentration from a small number of suppliers.
4. were associated with declining US petroleum production.
5. were associated with high dependency on oil imports.
6. were associated with low level of oil industry spending
7. led to speculation
8. caused an economic downturn
9. limited US policy options in the Middle East
08-09-2006, 02:37 PM
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the major differences this time are threefold
1. in the 70's they were able to supplement the mideast oil with oil from south america, now the mid east and south america are pumping as fast as they can, and there isnt any south america waiting in the wings
2. china is BIG and its industrializing, they have increased the total worldwide demand for oil, by fifty fafillion kajillion rupees.
3. our leader is an idiot
so basically, demand is up, supply isnt any different, and thus the prices for oil are headed up. #3 isnt helping
1. in the 70's they were able to supplement the mideast oil with oil from south america, now the mid east and south america are pumping as fast as they can, and there isnt any south america waiting in the wings
2. china is BIG and its industrializing, they have increased the total worldwide demand for oil, by fifty fafillion kajillion rupees.
3. our leader is an idiot
so basically, demand is up, supply isnt any different, and thus the prices for oil are headed up. #3 isnt helping
08-09-2006, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by j9fd3s' post='832110' date='Aug 9 2006, 11:37 AM
the major differences this time are threefold
1. in the 70's they were able to supplement the mideast oil with oil from south america, now the mid east and south america are pumping as fast as they can, and there isnt any south america waiting in the wings
2. china is BIG and its industrializing, they have increased the total worldwide demand for oil, by fifty fafillion kajillion rupees.
3. our leader is an idiot
so basically, demand is up, supply isnt any different, and thus the prices for oil are headed up. #3 isnt helping
1. really close but Cuba is next on the list. The US would love to ***** out Cuba if they get the chance, so they are on the list as it is but who knows whats going on there.
