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FaztAzzGXL 02-21-2005 04:55 PM

I dont really know anyone in vegas that can tune a haltech. I do have the 1660cc injectors. 550cc injectors and a aeromotive t1000 external fuel pump. all I need is some kind of fuel management and my car will be finished the way I want it to be. I had paid a guy in a shop here in vegas for a haltech e6x but it turns out the guy skipped town or something with my money as well as a lot of other peoples money. As for the microsquirt, Ive herad of that but not really to familiar with it. where can I get information on one?? thanks to the guys that are giving me some advice.






Originally Posted by RETed' date='Feb 21 2005, 03:10 AM
Cause Turbonetics doesn't offer a 4psi spring for their Deltagate?

-Ted




ok well its a 3-5psi spring. but my car boosts 4psi just the way it is right now.

G2G 02-21-2005 05:51 PM

Those of us who are doubting, or that are confused as to why you would try and run a turboed car off of an N/a ecu and a piggy back are saying so because you are on a very thin line. 550 secondaries aren't enough to support major boost, and I am surprised that your engine hasn't blown up yet. Try heading some of their advice as a couple of them have been doing this a whole lot longer than you and have a lot more time invested in this sort of deal. No offense but quit acting like a jerk off to them, and try taking their advice.



- Hand

FaztAzzGXL 02-22-2005 01:43 AM


Originally Posted by G2G' date='Feb 21 2005, 03:51 PM
Those of us who are doubting, or that are confused as to why you would try and run a turboed car off of an N/a ecu and a piggy back are saying so because you are on a very thin line. 550 secondaries aren't enough to support major boost, and I am surprised that your engine hasn't blown up yet. Try heading some of their advice as a couple of them have been doing this a whole lot longer than you and have a lot more time invested in this sort of deal. No offense but quit acting like a jerk off to them, and try taking their advice.



- Hand


Ok this is what brings me to ask for you guys to give me advice on a fuel management. I dont drive the car everyday.. it sits in my garage waiting for the rest of the car. I know im running on a thin line with the NA ecu and a piggy back which is why the car doesnt see much boost at all. Which then again brings me back to the question on fuel management. I asked for advice on a fuel management system not criticism which is all you have been giving me. I know theres lots of people that have been doing this for longer but I do know what my car needs and its fuel management. So if you cant give advice, why post to my question with other comments???

CrassFC3S 02-22-2005 02:23 AM

if you cant properly tune a full standalone to specific fuel settings you will never boost as much as that turbo is capable of, lying or not you need a standalone, doesnt matter how nice your fuel system is what pump or rail or secondary's you have if your computer isnt giving them the right amount of fuel youre going no where, by fuel managment what do you expect? to plug in some replacement computer and it be tuned? either learn or find someone who isnt insanely far and take it to them haltech is worth every penny and if you cant tune it someone can, steve kan will fly to you

RETed 02-22-2005 03:29 AM


Originally Posted by FaztAzzGXL' date='Feb 21 2005, 02:54 PM
I had paid a guy in a shop here in vegas for a haltech e6x but it turns out the guy skipped town or something with my money as well as a lot of other peoples money.

Empire or Harry Nieves?





-Ted

FaztAzzGXL 02-22-2005 04:10 AM

I do wanna learn how to tune that. But i know it dont come over night. I know people out here that SAY they can tune a haltech, but theyre mostly MR-2 guys and I dont think they can tune a rotary. and yes I was talkin about Harry Nieves who was the owner of Empire. he built my complete car. I paid him for the standalone and stuff and from what I hear now he skipped town. its been a few months since I heard from him. But harry has always been a real good mechanic. He tuned my car with the AFC and it ran really good for only boosting 4psi. I was just wondering on what kind of Haltech. Like I said.. my friends out here have been telling me to just go with 2 MSD6AL's and a haltech f9. then again I hear really good stuff about the E6x. For tuning I think I just might take it down to Cali to have someone down there tune it.

FaztAzzGXL 02-22-2005 04:54 AM

my car

CrassFC3S 02-22-2005 12:18 PM

looks nice, got any bay shots?? yeah but man seriously if you care about your car you will take the advice of the people on here, they live for their cars and know what theyre talking about.

teknics 02-22-2005 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by FaztAzzGXL' date='Feb 21 2005, 04:12 AM
uhh.. because thats what size I decided to go with. And I cant turn up the boost because I have no fuel management. SO thats where my question came from.. its called a brain, you should try usin it before asking stupid questions.




Use my brain? Look at you mr rocket scientist you built your car ass backwards "hmm ill buy all the power stuff, run it on an n/a ecu, and then whine and whin cause i cant boost a lot without fuel management".



If YOU used your god damn brain and built the car in a smart manner you'd know it's better to get your fuel, fuel management, etc out of the way ebfore you buy your power-up goodies. You sir are the dumbass here.



I'm not gonna rattle on about my abilities, but here's a clue, when we "criticize" or point **** out to you, its because its stupid. We arent trying to embarass you or something, we just dont see the sense in it.



I mean youre running a somewhat nice size turbo AT 4 PSI! you could have got a stock s5 turbo and ran it at stock levels and made more power then youre making now.



Hell that size turbo isnt efficient AT ALL at 4 psi, its probably more of a ******* restriction then anything.



As for fuel management, Id reccommend a Wolf, since the Wolf USA HQ is in cali, not too far from you, PLUS if you get the Innovate LM-1 wideband, and the Wolf V4 unit (looking at around $1800 total) you can send Chris (the boss at Wolf USA) the datalog of your wideband plus the map you're running and he will tune the map and send ti back to you without ever seeing your car.



Like the motto goes, you gotta pay to play. Piggybacks are good for a temporary solution.



kevin.

FaztAzzGXL 02-22-2005 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by teknics' date='Feb 22 2005, 03:34 PM
Use my brain? Look at you mr rocket scientist you built your car ass backwards "hmm ill buy all the power stuff, run it on an n/a ecu, and then whine and whin cause i cant boost a lot without fuel management".



If YOU used your god damn brain and built the car in a smart manner you'd know it's better to get your fuel, fuel management, etc out of the way ebfore you buy your power-up goodies. You sir are the dumbass here.



I'm not gonna rattle on about my abilities, but here's a clue, when we "criticize" or point **** out to you, its because its stupid. We arent trying to embarass you or something, we just dont see the sense in it.



I mean youre running a somewhat nice size turbo AT 4 PSI! you could have got a stock s5 turbo and ran it at stock levels and made more power then youre making now.








I used my brain and if you read thru Its not my daily driven car. It sits in my garage awaiting the rest of the parts. AND what kind of sense would it make for me to buy the fuel management first if its still ONLY gonna sit in my garage? I put a piggy back on it for a few days as a temp solution, really realized that I wasnt getting nowhere near the full potential out of it with the 4psi that the piggy back was able to handle on it. ANd what is there for you to criticize on? The order in which I built my car? well for one.. thats my business.. all I asked for was advice on a fuel management. Not for people to tell me that im bullshitting or say that 4psi is to low of boost and that My 550cc secondaries are to small which when a stand alone is installed in my car will be swapped out for the 1660cc injectors that are sitting in my garage. And for two.. the order in which i build my car doesnt really matter because it sits in my garage like I said more then once. So if your going to criticize on the way im building my car, at least get your facts straight you dumbass. now go bug someone else who has half a brain like you.


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