Heist Of The Mrccfl
01-07-2005, 07:19 AM
#51
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Originally Posted by 74rx4' date='Jan 6 2005, 10:34 PM
Sadly, I have decided not to attend Winterfest due to this situation. I have to agree with Banzaitoyota, we should keep MRCCFL's problems away.
Ron Slabach
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Then obviously you don't agree wit banzai..... that statement manages to say two completely opposite things in one sentance, impressive.
Lucky for us you won't be missed.
01-07-2005, 08:52 AM
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I'm not boycotting the Winterfest. I think its great. I've told many of the local rotorheads about it.
I think my presence could be a distraction and obviuosly it is not desired.
Ron
I think my presence could be a distraction and obviuosly it is not desired.
Ron
01-07-2005, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by phinsup' date='Jan 7 2005, 08:19 AM
Then obviously you don't agree wit banzai..... that statement manages to say two completely opposite things in one sentance, impressive.
Lucky for us you won't be missed.
Lucky for us you won't be missed.
Won't be missed? you don't even know Ron, and you're believing what some people say on the "second hand" side of the story. WTF?
01-07-2005, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by christi' date='Jan 7 2005, 11:11 AM
Won't be missed? you don't even know Ron, and you're believing what some people say on the "second hand" side of the story. WTF?
shut up christi no one cares about you
01-07-2005, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by christi' date='Jan 7 2005, 12:11 PM
Won't be missed? you don't even know Ron, and you're believing what some people say on the "second hand" side of the story. WTF?
So what do you know so well about Ron???
You're in the panhandle and he is in Southwest Florida. You two hang out a lot??
01-07-2005, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Shane.Trammell' date='Jan 7 2005, 01:10 PM
Shane, people may or may not like Christi, but she has a right to voice her opinion. There's no need for comments like that.
01-07-2005, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by christi' date='Jan 7 2005, 12:11 PM
Won't be missed? you don't even know Ron, and you're believing what some people say on the "second hand" side of the story. WTF?
Who said I knew anything about him. I said he wouldn't be missed. He made a pompass reply indicating that his absence would somehow detract from the event and people would rally behind him boycotting the "WINTER RETREAT". My reply was based on fact. I will not miss him, that's a fact.
PS... christi has pretty much lost any respect I had for her, so bite me... need I remind the new forum members as to your previous Nopistons.com exploits or would you prefer to leave it alone???
01-07-2005, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 74rx4' date='Jan 6 2005, 10:34 PM
In March of 2002 Ian and the officer's agreed to use Ken's business account to collect money, on the web, with payment available by credit card. The officer's had repeatedly asked Ian to provide a Paypal link so the Club could take in money over the website. He never did this. Ian knew Ken was taking in the money and, in fact was provided with a transaction record in March 2003 when he and Karen came to my house in Naples. In June of 2004 the transaction list was posted to the officer's list. Two important facts to consider. During the time Ken was collecting the money he and I paid for every issue of the newsletter, membership cards, decals, and food for several BBQs. If you look at the transaction list...
http://mrccfl.com/funds.shtml
you will find very few debits. These were credit card reversals when the Rollex event was cancelled last year. We did not use the club money that we had. When Ian started asking for an audit and accusing us of whatever he could think of, the money was immediately relinquished by Ken. In less than a week the money was out of Ken's hands. We did this on our own. No one (even Ian) demanded the money. The big stink started when Ian wanted to put all the money in a bank account that no one but he had ever seen statements from or could sign checks for. Take note that no records have ever been seen by any members or officers before March 2003. During that time $5000-$8000 was collected to pay for the 2002 Rollex event.
I have been sad to see some of your comments, Jim. I value your opinion and respect your contributions to the rotary community. You met Ken and I when we brought food to the autocross event you put on in Orlando. You saw what we did. What we did there is the same thing we did in Pensacola, in October, Ft. Lauderdale, in January (where I arranged for us to visit Speed Source), and Tampa in September. The Orlando event was the first time we did not pay for the food from our own pockets. You were kind enough to make sure the cost was covered. I felt bad when you said how much you lost on the event.
What are we getting out of this? We volunteer, donate our own money, keep the club's money intact and deliver it immediately. The only reason we had any control is because no one else wanted to do the things we were willing to do and pay for them. I think it is sad that I need to defend my actions when I have donated much of my time and money to the club. I have not resigned as an officer and I will not. Ian may remove me at any time, but I will not quit. I will not fight over this, but I felt I must answer some of the comments on this thread. Keep in mind this is a club with less than 43 paying members, it has never had more than 50.
Sadly, I have decided not to attend Winterfest due to this situation. I have to agree with Banzaitoyota, we should keep MRCCFL's problems away.
Ron Slabach
http://mrccfl.com/funds.shtml
you will find very few debits. These were credit card reversals when the Rollex event was cancelled last year. We did not use the club money that we had. When Ian started asking for an audit and accusing us of whatever he could think of, the money was immediately relinquished by Ken. In less than a week the money was out of Ken's hands. We did this on our own. No one (even Ian) demanded the money. The big stink started when Ian wanted to put all the money in a bank account that no one but he had ever seen statements from or could sign checks for. Take note that no records have ever been seen by any members or officers before March 2003. During that time $5000-$8000 was collected to pay for the 2002 Rollex event.
I have been sad to see some of your comments, Jim. I value your opinion and respect your contributions to the rotary community. You met Ken and I when we brought food to the autocross event you put on in Orlando. You saw what we did. What we did there is the same thing we did in Pensacola, in October, Ft. Lauderdale, in January (where I arranged for us to visit Speed Source), and Tampa in September. The Orlando event was the first time we did not pay for the food from our own pockets. You were kind enough to make sure the cost was covered. I felt bad when you said how much you lost on the event.
What are we getting out of this? We volunteer, donate our own money, keep the club's money intact and deliver it immediately. The only reason we had any control is because no one else wanted to do the things we were willing to do and pay for them. I think it is sad that I need to defend my actions when I have donated much of my time and money to the club. I have not resigned as an officer and I will not. Ian may remove me at any time, but I will not quit. I will not fight over this, but I felt I must answer some of the comments on this thread. Keep in mind this is a club with less than 43 paying members, it has never had more than 50.
Sadly, I have decided not to attend Winterfest due to this situation. I have to agree with Banzaitoyota, we should keep MRCCFL's problems away.
Ron Slabach
If you READ the entire thread RON you will see I calm down a bit and realize that you guys are very frustrated. I sort of change my stance as this thread progresses. But I guess you just had a knee jerk reaction to my initial statements and decided to retort.
From where I stand the MRCCFL is done, there is too much tumoil for this club to continue on.
Thanks for the history on the money issue. From an outsiders point of view it looked like the money was not going where it should by you guys. I see now you have it all acounted for.
As far as my personal dealings with you. At the Rotary only Autocross I pulled you aside and paid you cash so that you could stop charging people to eat. Unfortunatly you tried to charge Mazdadrifter after I told him the food was free. That got back to me and pissed me off especially when I was taking a $700 loss on the day. Since we are all airing our problems here, that is my problem. When I read there were issues with the club funds and you were involved I immediatly remembered you double dipping at the Autocross School. Forgive me for being bitter.
01-07-2005, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Team140' date='Jan 7 2005, 12:47 PM
Shane, people may or may not like Christi, but she has a right to voice her opinion. There's no need for comments like that.
oh you dont even know...
p.s. when someone who is widely disliked around here questions a statement made by the guy who has put everything he has into this site time and time again in anything other than a nice manner there are gonna be problems.
now if you say she has a right to voice her opinion i guess i have a right to voice mine too...
01-07-2005, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Jims5543' date='Jan 7 2005, 01:57 PM
If you READ the entire thread RON you will see I calm down a bit and realize that you guys are very frustrated. I sort of change my stance as this thread progresses. But I guess you just had a knee jerk reaction to my initial statements and decided to retort.
From where I stand the MRCCFL is done, there is too much tumoil for this club to continue on.
Thanks for the history on the money issue. From an outsiders point of view it looked like the money was not going where it should by you guys. I see now you have it all acounted for.
As far as my personal dealings with you. At the Rotary only Autocross I pulled you aside and paid you cash so that you could stop charging people to eat. Unfortunatly you tried to charge Mazdadrifter after I told him the food was free. That got back to me and pissed me off especially when I was taking a $700 loss on the day. Since we are all airing our problems here, that is my problem. When I read there were issues with the club funds and you were involved I immediatly remembered you double dipping at the Autocross School. Forgive me for being bitter.
From where I stand the MRCCFL is done, there is too much tumoil for this club to continue on.
Thanks for the history on the money issue. From an outsiders point of view it looked like the money was not going where it should by you guys. I see now you have it all acounted for.
As far as my personal dealings with you. At the Rotary only Autocross I pulled you aside and paid you cash so that you could stop charging people to eat. Unfortunatly you tried to charge Mazdadrifter after I told him the food was free. That got back to me and pissed me off especially when I was taking a $700 loss on the day. Since we are all airing our problems here, that is my problem. When I read there were issues with the club funds and you were involved I immediatly remembered you double dipping at the Autocross School. Forgive me for being bitter.
That doesn't sound second hand at all....