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Old Aug 29, 2002 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by evilT2' date='Aug 28 2002, 06:35 PM
[quote name='ThirdGenRX7' date='Aug 28 2002, 04:15 PM']since when has our government gave a **** about the constitution? it's in the garbage, forget it existed
The constitution is still very much in effect. the problem with it is that laws can be passed with very little regard to it and the people (the accused) have to suffer the costs of setting things right. This typically involves ungodly lawyers fees that most of the people who are involved with the various offenses cannot afford, not to mention months and months of court time. Its simply not profitable to fight this crap for those that do actually have the resources, and sadly profit is what this country as a whole is all about.[/quote]

Very true, in fact a very wealthy man in Texas fought a parking ticket, said that it was against the constitution to ticket him on a public roadway... he won, but they still do tickets on public roadways cause they we won't all fight it.



I forsee a lot more tickets hitting the streets that don't go on your driving record.. why? Because no one fights them. I fight and win every ticket I get, would rather the lawyer get my cash then those ******* leaches at the city.
Old Aug 29, 2002 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ThirdGenRX7' date='Aug 28 2002, 05:15 PM
to tell you the truth i trust machines 10000% more than I trust people... okay let's say you want it tested... how about this policy: at a regular interval sayyyy 1 month they go and check the camera to make sure it's functioning properly, if your ticket fell in the time that it was found to be out of adjustment then your ticket gets thrown out, problem solved. In california with redlight tickets the person's face has to be clear in the picture.
Interesting since it is physically impossible to make a 100% accurate electronic istrument.



You say problem resolved but that is the exact ******* issue YOU CAN'T ARGUE IT, YOU CAN'T TEST THE EQUIPMENT!!



I couldn't come up with a more contrdicting statement if I tried.. .but you certainly did.
Old Aug 29, 2002 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by phinsup' date='Aug 29 2002, 02:54 PM
Very true, in fact a very wealthy man in Texas fought a parking ticket, said that it was against the constitution to ticket him on a public roadway...
how is it unconstitutional?
Old Aug 29, 2002 | 02:00 PM
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I just told you. Charging someone to park on a street that was paid for using their taxes. Actuallyit was Parking meters they found to be illegal.. not the ticket.



Since you know so much about law... you would know why that ticket was thrown out after the findings on the parking meter so I won't waste my time explaining
Old Aug 29, 2002 | 02:03 PM
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i don't know where in the constitution it says anything about parking meters being illegal... which amendment?
Old Aug 29, 2002 | 02:03 PM
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After searching it appears that parking meters were challenged in Michigan as well... just a quick search.
Old Aug 29, 2002 | 02:09 PM
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but which amendment are they using?
Old Aug 29, 2002 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ThirdGenRX7' date='Aug 29 2002, 01:03 PM
i don't know where in the constitution it says anything about parking meters being illegal... which amendment?
First off the constitution is upheld by the courts, they interpret the laws... the constitution is just that, open for interpretation.



I can't wait until we get to your new world order, where we can't challenge courts because the government decided it fair and that is that. If that is the way you want it expect to be ruled by lobbyists and large coorporations. You can say good buy to your cars espcially sports cars, they produce too much pollution according to the special interests groups, so we cut them up and ship them off, you won't be able to fight that under your "perfect government" cause they'll just say "Where does it say we can't cut up you polluting car and ship it over seas in the constitution"?



And that was a pathetic stretch, much like the ones you have been dishing out this whole topic!
Old Aug 29, 2002 | 02:20 PM
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no I mean which amendment are they using to rationalize parking meters being illegal?
Old Aug 29, 2002 | 02:22 PM
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I will have to have the wife pull the case from the law library to get the full details for you. Although it is nice to see you have totally forgotten the topic at hand. LOL

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