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Originally Posted by ThirdGenRX7' date='Aug 28 2002, 07:15 PM
to tell you the truth i trust machines 10000% more than I trust people... okay let's say you want it tested... how about this policy: at a regular interval sayyyy 1 month they go and check the camera to make sure it's functioning properly, if your ticket fell in the time that it was found to be out of adjustment then your ticket gets thrown out, problem solved. In california with redlight tickets the person's face has to be clear in the picture.
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Spend a couple of bucks to buy those photo radar blockers that go over your plate, or the IR (Infrared) which look like a flashlight to a camera but invisible to the naked eye.
RadarBusters
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Originally Posted by ThirdGenRX7' date='Aug 28 2002, 04:15 PM
since when has our government gave a **** about the constitution? it's in the garbage, forget it existed
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Originally Posted by evilT2' date='Aug 28 2002, 08:35 PM
[quote name='ThirdGenRX7' date='Aug 28 2002, 04:15 PM']since when has our government gave a **** about the constitution? it's in the garbage, forget it existed
every once in awhile it is... what ever happened to free speech? you can't say anything anymore w/o having to worry about "offending" somebody
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You know I saw a news show not that long ago that did a special on the red light cameras. They found that when the cameras were installed the time period from when a light turns from yellow to red was shortened, as to increase the number of people running red lights. It wasn't small either, it was a substantial amount of time. This is bad for two reasons: one people are not being informed of the time change and two, people are more prone to get into an accident already subconsiously knowing how long they have before the parallel traffic lights turn green. They showed revenue reports for the local PD after the cameras were installed, and they were huge! I know in Canada they have signs up warning you that you are entering a photo radar area. I think this is better because people know where the cameras are and can slow down, pass them, and then move on. But I don't think photo radar is cool at all, and I am glad they don't have it here.
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Originally Posted by j9fd3s' date='Aug 28 2002, 01:53 PM
[quote name='13BAce' date='Aug 28 2002, 01:42 PM'][quote name='phinsup' date='Aug 28 2002, 01:07 PM']I personally don't think photo radar should be legal, it's horseshit and I am not real clear as to how it can hold up in court as there is no officer to right a report on his observances, were there environmental variables that could have effected the radar? Was the camera tested to be fully operational prior to the picture? etc, etc... these are all questions you could legally ask a ticketing officer in court, but are unable to ask a camera. Can you subpeona the camera and if it doesn't show in court beat the ticket? After all weren't we given the right to face our accuser in the constitution that court is obliged to uphold?
thats what ivan always says, next to insurance.
actually if you think about it the government is just a big protection racket
mike[/quote]
I'm with you.
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Originally Posted by ThirdGenRX7' date='Aug 28 2002, 06:39 PM
[quote name='evilT2' date='Aug 28 2002, 08:35 PM'][quote name='ThirdGenRX7' date='Aug 28 2002, 04:15 PM']since when has our government gave a **** about the constitution? it's in the garbage, forget it existed
every once in awhile it is... what ever happened to free speech? you can't say anything anymore w/o having to worry about "offending" somebody[/quote]
Free speech is alive and well, but that doesn't mean it won't offend anyone. This board is a great example, say what you like... but don't be surprised if it pisses someone off.
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Originally Posted by isamu' date='Aug 29 2002, 02:16 AM
You know I saw a news show not that long ago that did a special on the red light cameras. They found that when the cameras were installed the time period from when a light turns from yellow to red was shortened, as to increase the number of people running red lights. It wasn't small either, it was a substantial amount of time. This is bad for two reasons: one people are not being informed of the time change and two, people are more prone to get into an accident already subconsiously knowing how long they have before the parallel traffic lights turn green. They showed revenue reports for the local PD after the cameras were installed, and they were huge! I know in Canada they have signs up warning you that you are entering a photo radar area. I think this is better because people know where the cameras are and can slow down, pass them, and then move on. But I don't think photo radar is cool at all, and I am glad they don't have it here.