Also in Washington you are allowed to request to see the radar gun unless another officer was present at the time of the clocking... how is that possible with photo?

 

For one thing, its only a fine, no points on your license, and one of the companies that makes those cameras is being sued because they are not profitable like they said they would be, I have the article somewhere in one of my Car and Drivers actually, its COSTING that state money to have the damm things in operation.

 

Furthermore, you are challenging my statement because you don't want a rape tape to be thrown out of court, do realize what that would do to our judicial system if we considered the long precidence in every case over the merits of the case itself?



So we would not release a man accused of murder because it might start a trend? Unfortunately guilty people go free all the time, but if they are not guilty beyond proponderance of the eveidence then they should go free, that is the way the system was designed and is upheld.



And you want to argue tickets and their virtues, by all means let's stick to tickets, god knows I know a lot less than you, I have only had 8 or 9 tickets in my driving career and NONE of them are on my driving record... but I wouldn't know anything about fighting them..., that is what my lawyer is for

 

They are ILLEGAL in the state of washington. So I don't know how they go with insurance.

 

They are ILLEGAL in the state of washington. So I don't know how they go with insurance.[/quote]

Who is to say who was driving the car? Here in New York we have red light cameras, while normally running a red light will slam the **** of your license and car insurance, a camera red light ticket is merely a fine not unlike a parking ticket.

 

Yea that was the one part I didn't even bring up, can you prove beyond a shadow of a doubt I was driving the car... much like ThirdGen's rape example, if you can't prove it was him... the tape is useless.

 

The ticket goes to the registered of the car.

 

Horseshit... this is an erosion of our constitutional rights plain and simple.



I suppose you don't want me to tell you why unmarked police cars are entrapment now do you LOL

 

and did u also know that police have to be 100% visible when clocking radar speed they cant hide

 

to tell you the truth i trust machines 10000% more than I trust people... okay let's say you want it tested... how about this policy: at a regular interval sayyyy 1 month they go and check the camera to make sure it's functioning properly, if your ticket fell in the time that it was found to be out of adjustment then your ticket gets thrown out, problem solved. In california with redlight tickets the person's face has to be clear in the picture.