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Old 03-14-2005, 08:38 PM
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I haven't connected the post on the alternator, but I've grounded the Haltech and finished terminating everything in the loom.



I was able to turn the ignition to the accessory position and brought my Haltech online (and I did a little dance). The only sketchy thing was the clicking noise coming from the trailing coil. It only happens initially as power is introduced to the coil. Is there something wrong with it or?



The best part of working on the car tonight was when I turned the ignition 100% (just before the engine turns over) and the windshield wipers knocking all the papers I had on the windhield off. My dad happened to be standing at the front of the car right when I turned the key. His expression and language was priceless to say the least!



My only other concern was that I didn't hear the fuel pump "click." Should it at this point? Or would it do this right when the engine turns over?



I'm gonna wire the alternator post and the starter tomorrow and fill it with fluids. The only thing left to do will be cleaning the intercooler pipes as they came with what looks to be hydraulic fluid on the inside...



Counting down the days...
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Old 03-14-2005, 11:40 PM
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You sound very close to it . When did you start it project ? hehe ... What about your bent axle ? Decided on a ford 8.8 ?
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[quote name='SomeGuy_sg' date='Mar 15 2005, 12:40 AM']You sound very close to it . When did you start it project ? hehe ... What about your bent axle ? Decided on a ford 8.8 ?

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This thread used to be a lot longer but our server crapped out a few months ago...



I started the project in May of '04. I bought the car in Feb. of '04 though.



It's been a long time coming! The diff is an LSD from a GSL-SE. I'll be getting a driveshaft machined for me.
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Old 03-16-2005, 12:14 PM
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Click from the coil? Are you sure it's comming from the coil and not a realy next to it?



The fuel pump should run for ~1.5 seconds when you turn the key on.
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Old 03-16-2005, 12:31 PM
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Okay guys, I'd like to get some 'lectrical help WRT the wiring diagram.



I've circled some points of interest:



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I'm trying to find the main fusible link, which, I assume, is X01 on the diagram. If you look at this second diagram, you can see that it's supposedly on the strut tower:



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The main goal here is to not have like 80 fused connections that I've made, and just use some of the stock wiring since it's already there. The ideal thing would be, I guess, to remove the fusible links and all the other fuses and put in a new fuse box. Right now, I don't really feel like doing that. Maybe in future revs of this project . At any rate, this is for the alternator of course. Now rather than running a 8awg inline fused connection to the battery, I would rather tie into the existing fusible link. I imagine this one is not rated for 80 amps, so I did purchase a fusible link to replace it with once I find it.



Here's a pic of where I believe X01 should be (the pic kinda sucks, sorry):



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Now, for you intelligent folks out there, which one of these is X01, and how in the world do I attach a wire to it?



My second question involves the alternator being connected to the ignition switch. The diagram shows A-17 going to the ignition switch. How does the alternator know when to charge the battery? Is the dummy light connection wire a way of switching the alternator "on" when the ignition is turned on?



I realize a lot of these questions are probably rudimentary but they are things I should know about my car. Thanks in advance!
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[quote name='setzep' date='Mar 16 2005, 01:14 PM']Click from the coil? Are you sure it's comming from the coil and not a realy next to it?



The fuel pump should run for ~1.5 seconds when you turn the key on.

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The B/W wire running to the coils...I assume there's a relay somewhere in there, it could possibly be the relay. Is this normal, at any rate?



I think I solved the fuel pump problem. The grey wire (flying lead) from the Haltech is connected to the wrong power wire in the engine bay, which would lead me to believe that the pump isn't getting any power when the ignition is turned on because that's the grey wires purpose...
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Here is a better diagram of the fusible links.



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You may be better off just replacing the fusible links with a fuse box out of a second gen, but you should be able to use what you have now. The wire for the alt should connect at some point to the W/R wire in the middle of the fusible links. Probably the easiest wat to do it for now is to just use the old alt output wire (also W/R). Then once you have everything sorted out, you can look at replacing the fusible links with a 2nd gen fuse box or similar.



Your new alt does not connect to the ignition switch. That is why the instruction say to tape out the W/B wire (it is not used). You just connect the B/W pigtail to the old B/W wire and the W/L pigtail to constant power (though a fuse). The reason is that the alts use different styles of regulators. For the '88 and earlier, the regulators are turned off when the car is not running (through switched ignition source). The later alts (S5, FD, etc.) regulators are always on. They expect to see battery voltage at the 'S' terminal at all times (W/L pigtail). If you connect that pigtail to a switched source, the alt will try to charge the battery when the car is off (the 'S' terminal has 0 volts, put the output post is still at battery voltage) this will cause a drain on the battery as mentioned in the teamfc3s link I posted ealier.



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Here is a smaller version (memory wise) of the pic I posted. It wouldn't let me edit the post, so I had to add another.



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[quote name='gsl-se addict' date='Mar 16 2005, 02:26 PM']Here is a smaller version (memory wise) of the pic I posted. It wouldn't let me edit the post, so I had to add another.



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Thanks Kent.



Now here's a stupid question, how does the *wire* attach to the fusible link?



The old alternator output wire is MIA, I spent a good while trying to find it yesterday. As much as I tried to stay organized in removing stuff, I have definitely failed in that aspect.



EDIT: Unless the wire is somehow covered, I can't really "see" it. I mean, I see the main loom so-to-speak and the W/R wire coming out of it and then terminating with a U shaped connector. I have since cut this connector off and run an extension to the battery. I should also mention that the battery is now in the passenger bin...
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Here's a pic of my ugly looking fuses and such:



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Here's what the glovebox looks like now :



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