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Old 01-29-2003, 02:30 AM
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Any suggestions?I know I'll need some 1600cc secondaries and huge IC and fuel system to match it but I want to know what turbos are out there that will produce 500hp at the flywheel?



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on a rotary you need a To4R or bigger, you can do it with a To4S if you don't mind boosting the living **** out of it. There are several large ball bearing turbo's you can use but I wouldn't ever run a ball bearing turbo on a rotary engine unless you've got $ to burn...
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Originally Posted by Dragon' date='Jan 29 2003, 02:38 AM
on a rotary you need a To4R or bigger, you can do it with a To4S if you don't mind boosting the living **** out of it. There are several large ball bearing turbo's you can use but I wouldn't ever run a ball bearing turbo on a rotary engine unless you've got $ to burn...
I kinda figured that the T04R would be the best one.I plan on a non-ported 13B-RE or 20B-REW and my power goal is 500hp next time.Damn turbo will be costly.I can boost the crap out of stock twins for awhile I guess.
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Then save up and build a ported engine.
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you may be into boostin the stock turbos for a while, but too much heat from all of that boostin will cause some premature wear in your other components. get ready for a **** ton of money.



the goal that you seek is not too far fetched at all. that is roughly 430 whp. so, any turbo like the T-78, T-04r/z, GT35/40, T88, and T-51kai will all surmount the goal that you seek. just make sure that you build towards that goal, not to it, and then learn the hard way.



just look at all the guys that are poppin seals out the *** b/c/o irregularly proportioned maps and tuning curves. there are far too many horror stories out there for me to make a jump right now. ****, i have 4000.00 in cash in my bedroom, and have been looking into singles for a year now, and am just making up my mind. and because i am shooting for 500~hp and a daily driver most of the time, i am going with the gt35/40. i like the to4r, but i am looking for the most easily installable turbo kit that i can purchase. so, those were just a few of the things that were affecting my decision during the search.....of course, i now have the ported and dowell pinned motor with HD seals and fuel to go with it....





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Originally Posted by r_xplicit' date='Jan 29 2003, 08:29 PM
you may be into boostin the stock turbos for a while, but too much heat from all of that boostin will cause some premature wear in your other components. get ready for a **** ton of money.



the goal that you seek is not too far fetched at all. that is roughly 430 whp. so, any turbo like the T-78, T-04r/z, GT35/40, T88, and T-51kai will all surmount the goal that you seek. just make sure that you build towards that goal, not to it, and then learn the hard way.



just look at all the guys that are poppin seals out the *** b/c/o irregularly proportioned maps and tuning curves. there are far too many horror stories out there for me to make a jump right now. ****, i have 4000.00 in cash in my bedroom, and have been looking into singles for a year now, and am just making up my mind. and because i am shooting for 500~hp and a daily driver most of the time, i am going with the gt35/40. i like the to4r, but i am looking for the most easily installable turbo kit that i can purchase. so, those were just a few of the things that were affecting my decision during the search.....of course, i now have the ported and dowell pinned motor with HD seals and fuel to go with it....





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OK,Thanks for the help.I wonder which is best for the $$$?I think the T04R is prolly the cheapest one to buy.Either way I want to build it and do it right on the first try.Thanks Louis



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i'm also doing a 13b-re swap...and those stock turbos are good for around 14psi...what you might think of doing is sending them out to bnrsupercars.com...they have exp with that turbo set up.
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the to4r is not going to be the cheaper of the kits, in fact, hks products are some of the more pricey ones to be had. just do as much research as you can, and take your time, and make sure that your car is ready and up to the task....
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Originally Posted by r_xplicit' date='Feb 1 2003, 05:37 PM
the to4r is not going to be the cheaper of the kits, in fact, hks products are some of the more pricey ones to be had. just do as much research as you can, and take your time, and make sure that your car is ready and up to the task....
Yeah I know all about that.When the time comes I'll see what my options will be.I'm really thinking of a 20B single turbo FB. :yum: I'll try to get the car in the summer while saving for a T2 tranny, lightwieght flywheel, clutch and counterwieght.Then buy winter I should have the money for the engine.Then at least I can see the clearences and get a idea of what will fit.Do you which of those three turbos is the best for the buck?I hear reports of FDs pushing 500 on the T04S at 14psi is this also possible?



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Originally Posted by Midnightdriver' date='Feb 1 2003, 04:02 PM
i'm also doing a 13b-re swap...and those stock turbos are good for around 14psi...what you might think of doing is sending them out to bnrsupercars.com...they have exp with that turbo set up.
I was considering doing that but I think a 3 rotor FB would be a nice car to own.Just think of the torque on a lightwieght car....... :yum: I need to get a Haltech E11 to run it but thats the price I'll have to pay.Just like running dual oil coolers.Parts will be around $16000 cdn when its done and ready to run.Should take me a 1-2 years to build it but I don't mind this 83 rx will be used more than a 20B anyways.Damn 20B's are gas hogs. I'll have a full kit and spoiler for it planned out when its running.Got to have the show to go with the go.Then some nice 16's would suit it nicely.
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