Rx-8 Dyno #'s
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From: Jensen Beach, FL / Sylva, NC
Originally Posted by Kenetix' date='Aug 3 2003, 12:02 PM
I really wish people were more educated before they start bashing the product. If you don't believe me go talk to Paul Yaw.
Educated does not mean guessing based on a previous models settings. So your little blurb above falls into category 2 of my desciption of RX-8 forums members. You dont know **** but your good at bullshitting and convincing others you know your ****.
I am not bashing the RX-8 or Mazda. I am plainly disapointed.
I guess we will have to wait a few months until these cars break in and suddenly develope over 35 more RWHP.
Wouldn't you think Mazda just might put something in the owners manual that your car it not performing at 100% for X amount of miles (or ECU hours) until Mazda feels its broken in. Obviously this has developed into a major sticking point for both owners of RX-8's and potential buyers.
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Originally Posted by Kenetix' date='Aug 3 2003, 11:01 AM
Okay, let me clear some things up since everyone seems to be bashing the RX-8 and mazda. The reason that you are seeing such low HP on the dyno is because the ECU is programmed for break-in mode for a certain number of miles, such as 3,000 or so. Once the engine hits 6250 rpms, the power ports are supposed to open for high rpm power. Well, this has been somewhat disabled as the ECU just dumps fuel at open loop limiting high rpm horsepower. There it is. Deal with it for the first couple of thousand miles and then get back on the dyno.
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From: Fountain Valley, CA
Huh, I was reading some posts at my club site and here is what one fellow posted, kinda made me curious.
"Thanks for the info. How many miles are on the vehicle? 185 on a new
motor does not sound bad. If that motor works the same as the old
13b's, compression will continue to increase until it reaches
somewhere between eight and ten thousand miles. At 10,000 miles the
peak HP numbers for a 13b are typically higher than at 2,000 miles.
Have you run a compression check? If it's not inconvenient, run
compression checks at 2K intervals and report back as to how the
numbers increase."
"Thanks for the info. How many miles are on the vehicle? 185 on a new
motor does not sound bad. If that motor works the same as the old
13b's, compression will continue to increase until it reaches
somewhere between eight and ten thousand miles. At 10,000 miles the
peak HP numbers for a 13b are typically higher than at 2,000 miles.
Have you run a compression check? If it's not inconvenient, run
compression checks at 2K intervals and report back as to how the
numbers increase."
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[QUOTE]Unless some real revelation occured since 10:00 Saturday morning at the RX-8 forum the ECU thing was speculation based on an excerpt from a TII shop manual.
Educated does not mean guessing based on a previous models settings. So your little blurb above falls into category 2 of my desciption of RX-8 forums members. You dont know **** but your good at bullshitting and convincing others you know your ****.
I am not bashing the RX-8 or Mazda. I am plainly disapointed.
I guess we will have to wait a few months until these cars break in and suddenly develope over 35 more RWHP.
Listen here you sack of ****. Don't go telling me what I know and don't know. I work for Mazda, and the last thing I need is some punk assed little kid telling me I don't know what the **** I'm talking about. I've owned over 15 rotary cars in my life and have YET until now, had someone tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. Why don't you pull that piston out of your *** and get ******* real. You'll see a response from Mazda personally on this board, on this forum within the next two weeks. Until then, why don't you go start working on you 350 chevy swap for your RX-7 since you couldnt tell a rotary from a hole in your head.
Educated does not mean guessing based on a previous models settings. So your little blurb above falls into category 2 of my desciption of RX-8 forums members. You dont know **** but your good at bullshitting and convincing others you know your ****.
I am not bashing the RX-8 or Mazda. I am plainly disapointed.
I guess we will have to wait a few months until these cars break in and suddenly develope over 35 more RWHP.
Listen here you sack of ****. Don't go telling me what I know and don't know. I work for Mazda, and the last thing I need is some punk assed little kid telling me I don't know what the **** I'm talking about. I've owned over 15 rotary cars in my life and have YET until now, had someone tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. Why don't you pull that piston out of your *** and get ******* real. You'll see a response from Mazda personally on this board, on this forum within the next two weeks. Until then, why don't you go start working on you 350 chevy swap for your RX-7 since you couldnt tell a rotary from a hole in your head.
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That is completely un-called for Kenetix. You have provided no proof, and this theory has been floating around for awhile. How do you expect us to believe you over anyone else?
edit: Jim is not a kid, and I have found him very knowledgable regarding rotaries, and 7's in general
edit: Jim is not a kid, and I have found him very knowledgable regarding rotaries, and 7's in general
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From: Tulsa, OK
Originally Posted by Kenetix' date='Aug 4 2003, 08:59 AM
Listen here you sack of ****. Don't go telling me what I know and don't know. I work for Mazda, and the last thing I need is some punk assed little kid telling me I don't know what the **** I'm talking about. I've owned over 15 rotary cars in my life and have YET until now, had someone tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. Why don't you pull that piston out of your *** and get ******* real. You'll see a response from Mazda personally on this board, on this forum within the next two weeks. Until then, why don't you go start working on you 350 chevy swap for your RX-7 since you couldnt tell a rotary from a hole in your head.
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From: Mike is a Liar!
OoooHH.. Red Flag.. Red Flag..
Well regardless of what anyone says, till there is actually a real proven theory, we can all just speculate as to what the problem is.. some may be closer to that truth than others.. or it may be a combination of various problems..
Well regardless of what anyone says, till there is actually a real proven theory, we can all just speculate as to what the problem is.. some may be closer to that truth than others.. or it may be a combination of various problems..
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From: Fountain Valley, CA
After researching this topic quite throughly, I think we're just jumping the gun here, and we need to wait until the cars get more mileage on them. I figure in about 6 months we'll know the absoloute truth about these things, and we'll find that we won't be dissapointed. 
