Originally Posted by Team140' date='Jan 7 2005, 03:39 PM

No. I contacted Benry to have him confirm or deny what Ian was saying about the SS organizers thought of me.



I figured as much as Ian claimed to be talking with Berny that he would at least keep tabs on the club. I know if I was going to consider a club across the continent with my event's name, I would be at the very least an active lurker in the club.



In a nutshell, I asked a specific question, not going into details about club business other than "the club is up in arms with the current administration" and I got an honest reply.

Originally Posted by Jims5543' date='Jan 7 2005, 09:55 PM

Ian banned you for good reason then.

Originally Posted by Team140' date='Jan 7 2005, 10:05 PM

Ah. To each his own. So far you are the first to think that way. Going to the source to confirm or deny statements made by others is not a bannable offense in my book.



Seeking the truth is not wrong.

Originally Posted by Jims5543' date='Jan 7 2005, 10:11 PM

You were not an officer of the club. You had no business doing what you did. You made the club look REALLY bad in the eyes of others. You have done irreversable damage that you cannot even realize yourself.



Again. Its a stupid car club. The damage you did goes way beyond wether or not your the president.

Originally Posted by Jims5543' date='Jan 7 2005, 10:11 PM

You were not an officer of the club. You had no business doing what you did. You made the club look REALLY bad in the eyes of others. You have done irreversable damage that you cannot even realize yourself.



Again. Its a stupid car club. The damage you did goes way beyond wether or not your the president.

Originally Posted by P'cola FD' date='Jan 8 2005, 12:27 AM

Jim, I must have missed something. What did Brian do that was so bad? Who is this Berny guy? I'm confused.

Originally Posted by Jims5543' date='Jan 8 2005, 01:33 PM

Christi - Your an idiot.

P'Cola FD - Brian called Bernie and aired dirty Laundy.



Eh... I don't think so. You have no idea what was said to Berny. I did not air dirty laundry. I asked whether claims against me were true or false. How in the world is that airing dirty laundry? MRCCFL politics of Ian's behavior otherwise was not discussed. Until you know the facts, I'd suggest that you just watch from the sidelines.



Wether or not he did damage isnt really the issue. Its the fact that he overstepped his bounds and had no right to call acting like he was in charge. He is merely a member like I am and nothing more.



I had the right to contact Berny. It is my right, just like anyone else's to contact whomever they feel like. Besides, Ian was making a direct stab at my character and it needed to be verified. You're not a member as far as I can see. At least not a paid member. Charter member and a paying charter member are two different things. I (am supposed to, according to the bylaws), have a say in how the club operates and can run for office, you cannot. We are not in the same member category.



BTW - I am Charter member #25 so whats your point??



Maybe you were at one point, but you are no longer a paying member according to the site, so your argument here is null and void



I dont like Brians agenda and I dont like his "dirty politics" in order to gain presidency. But, thats all a mute point because his stupidity got him ousted from the MRCCFL and banned from the mailing list thus loosing his ability to be elected president.



Nobody can please everyone, that's a fact. If you think my politics are dirty, you obviously haven't been paying attention to Ian very well. You don't like the agenda of having members VOTE on what goes on in the club instead of one person making all of the decisions? Whether or not people liked my ideas, they were all to be voted on by the membership. The CLUB would decide the fate of MRCCFL, not I.



I could nto give a rats ass wether or not the MRCCFL is here tomarrow. Its seems like it has been affectively destroyed from within. Wether or not it was Ians doing or other members is a mute point.



True. It all started collapsing about 4 years ago.



Sorry Christi I dont have an agenda I really dont care but I am tired of all the mud slinging and that has been going on sice Brian threw his hat in the ring.



Ian started the fire, I'm just fighting back. Remember, it was I who was POUNDED on by members at first, especially Ian, Karen and Christi. Ian and Karen are obviously holding their ground because of their positions in the club, Christi has seen the light, like most of the initial haters of me.