Mrccfl Body Count?
01-06-2005, 01:23 PM
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Well, it looks like I've fully joined the ranks of the MRCCFL List's of banned posters. I was able to post under my screen name, but that has come to an end after I asked about the current status of MRCCFl financials, elections, and list moderating.
Therefore, can someone give this poor Charter member an idea of where the club is at present? Are any officers left? Is the officer list functioning? How many members have been banned from the list? What is the status of the financial records? Is Jerry still a signatory on the bank account? Did the bank account ever get setup so two signatures were required for withdrawls (different then just two signatures on the account)?
If these questions seem unreasonable for a member to ask, just let me know.
John P.
Therefore, can someone give this poor Charter member an idea of where the club is at present? Are any officers left? Is the officer list functioning? How many members have been banned from the list? What is the status of the financial records? Is Jerry still a signatory on the bank account? Did the bank account ever get setup so two signatures were required for withdrawls (different then just two signatures on the account)?
If these questions seem unreasonable for a member to ask, just let me know.
John P.
01-06-2005, 02:57 PM
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I'll try to answer to the best of my knowledge.
Originally Posted by jdp3253' date='Jan 6 2005, 02:23 PM
Well, it looks like I've fully joined the ranks of the MRCCFL List's of banned posters. I was able to post under my screen name, but that has come to an end after I asked about the current status of MRCCFl financials, elections, and list moderating.
I responded to your email to the list, but as you can see, it never made it through. I don't know if you got the personal reply I sent or not.
Therefore, can someone give this poor Charter member an idea of where the club is at present?
It's up in arms. Noone really knows the status. The powers that be aren't talking.
Are any officers left?
Someone posted in another thread that the only remaining officers are Ian and his significant other, Karen. All of the other officers have resigned.
Is the officer list functioning?
If it is, and the current officer status is like I mentioned above, then the only people with the answer to that question is Ian or Karen since they would be the only two on the list.
How many members have been banned from the list?
My guess (I do not have access to banned or moderated members) is in the 15-20 range.
What is the status of the financial records?
Noone knows. All we do know is Ian now has all of the money for the club.
Is Jerry still a signatory on the bank account?
No. He resigned his position.
Did the bank account ever get setup so two signatures were required for withdrawls (different then just two signatures on the account)?
The last I heard was the funds were transferred into the account Ian setup with Karen as the cosigner. Considering their relationship outside the club, this is not a wise move.
If these questions seem unreasonable for a member to ask, just let me know.
Not unreasonable at all. Every MRCCFL member should know exactly what's going on any time they ask, much less Charter Members.
John P.
I responded to your email to the list, but as you can see, it never made it through. I don't know if you got the personal reply I sent or not.
Therefore, can someone give this poor Charter member an idea of where the club is at present?
It's up in arms. Noone really knows the status. The powers that be aren't talking.
Are any officers left?
Someone posted in another thread that the only remaining officers are Ian and his significant other, Karen. All of the other officers have resigned.
Is the officer list functioning?
If it is, and the current officer status is like I mentioned above, then the only people with the answer to that question is Ian or Karen since they would be the only two on the list.
How many members have been banned from the list?
My guess (I do not have access to banned or moderated members) is in the 15-20 range.
What is the status of the financial records?
Noone knows. All we do know is Ian now has all of the money for the club.
Is Jerry still a signatory on the bank account?
No. He resigned his position.
Did the bank account ever get setup so two signatures were required for withdrawls (different then just two signatures on the account)?
The last I heard was the funds were transferred into the account Ian setup with Karen as the cosigner. Considering their relationship outside the club, this is not a wise move.
If these questions seem unreasonable for a member to ask, just let me know.
Not unreasonable at all. Every MRCCFL member should know exactly what's going on any time they ask, much less Charter Members.
John P.
01-07-2005, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by jdp3253' date='Jan 6 2005, 02:23 PM
Well, it looks like I've fully joined the ranks of the MRCCFL List's of banned posters. I was able to post under my screen name, but that has come to an end after I asked about the current status of MRCCFl financials, elections, and list moderating.
Therefore, can someone give this poor Charter member an idea of where the club is at present? Are any officers left? Is the officer list functioning? How many members have been banned from the list? What is the status of the financial records? Is Jerry still a signatory on the bank account? Did the bank account ever get setup so two signatures were required for withdrawls (different then just two signatures on the account)?
If these questions seem unreasonable for a member to ask, just let me know.
John P.
Therefore, can someone give this poor Charter member an idea of where the club is at present? Are any officers left? Is the officer list functioning? How many members have been banned from the list? What is the status of the financial records? Is Jerry still a signatory on the bank account? Did the bank account ever get setup so two signatures were required for withdrawls (different then just two signatures on the account)?
If these questions seem unreasonable for a member to ask, just let me know.
John P.
Club at present?
At this point, we know that a lawyer/s have been retained.
Brian is no longer a candidate for president as a result of his membership being revoked by Ian.
The website is also up in the air as Ken has resigned his position as webmaster. The newsletter also at this time is on hold as Ken stepped down from newsletter editor also.
Everything else is up in the air as we all await what Ian will do.
Any officers left?
As of now the only officers still left are myself and Ron. Which brings the total to 4...Ian, Karen making up the other 2. But before the holidays both Ron and I were asked/told to resign our positions, being that we have no control over anything Ian can very just remove us at will. So that will leave Ian and Karen in control of the club and its funds.
As for the officers list I don't think that is up and running as a result of the lack of officers.
Jerry?
Jerry posted before that as of the 1st of this month he resigned his position. As of now he is still the second signer on the account. However, Jerry did also ask for his name to be removed from the account within a certain time. This again put things in Ian hands to get things done. As of who will be the second signer, at this point its quite obvious that Karen will become the second signer of the account.
No your questions are not unreasonable. I wish more questions be asked by the rest of the members both paying and non paying.
01-07-2005, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by dvls-7' date='Jan 7 2005, 05:16 AM
Club at present?
At this point, we know that a lawyer/s have been retained.
Brian is no longer a candidate for president as a result of his membership being revoked by Ian.
The website is also up in the air as Ken has resigned his position as webmaster. The newsletter also at this time is on hold as Ken stepped down from newsletter editor also.
Everything else is up in the air as we all await what Ian will do.
Any officers left?
As of now the only officers still left are myself and Ron. Which brings the total to 4...Ian, Karen making up the other 2. But before the holidays both Ron and I were asked/told to resign our positions, being that we have no control over anything Ian can very just remove us at will. So that will leave Ian and Karen in control of the club and its funds.
As for the officers list I don't think that is up and running as a result of the lack of officers.
Jerry?
Jerry posted before that as of the 1st of this month he resigned his position. As of now he is still the second signer on the account. However, Jerry did also ask for his name to be removed from the account within a certain time. This again put things in Ian hands to get things done. As of who will be the second signer, at this point its quite obvious that Karen will become the second signer of the account.
No your questions are not unreasonable. I wish more questions be asked by the rest of the members both paying and non paying.
At this point, we know that a lawyer/s have been retained.
Brian is no longer a candidate for president as a result of his membership being revoked by Ian.
The website is also up in the air as Ken has resigned his position as webmaster. The newsletter also at this time is on hold as Ken stepped down from newsletter editor also.
Everything else is up in the air as we all await what Ian will do.
Any officers left?
As of now the only officers still left are myself and Ron. Which brings the total to 4...Ian, Karen making up the other 2. But before the holidays both Ron and I were asked/told to resign our positions, being that we have no control over anything Ian can very just remove us at will. So that will leave Ian and Karen in control of the club and its funds.
As for the officers list I don't think that is up and running as a result of the lack of officers.
Jerry?
Jerry posted before that as of the 1st of this month he resigned his position. As of now he is still the second signer on the account. However, Jerry did also ask for his name to be removed from the account within a certain time. This again put things in Ian hands to get things done. As of who will be the second signer, at this point its quite obvious that Karen will become the second signer of the account.
No your questions are not unreasonable. I wish more questions be asked by the rest of the members both paying and non paying.
01-07-2005, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by dvls-7' date='Jan 7 2005, 05:16 AM
Brian is no longer a candidate for president as a result of his membership being revoked by Ian.
Sorry for the first screwed up post. Meant to say.
How does that work? Revoking membership is a disciplinary action. According to MRCCFL Bylaws Ariticle 3.6.6 disciplinary action is by a majority vote of a quorum of the board. As such, the President, acting alone, cannot revoke membership? Are we ever going to adhere to the bylaws?
John P.
01-07-2005, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Team140' date='Jan 7 2005, 02:41 PM
I'm at a total loss here. I had a feeling he was going to SOMEHOW eliminate the elections, but I wasn't sure how he was going to do it.
Ian has brought way too much shame on the club because of his greed for power.
Ian has brought way too much shame on the club because of his greed for power.
Answer one simple question:
Did you contact Bernie and air MRCCFL dirty laundry??
01-07-2005, 02:40 PM
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No. I contacted Benry to have him confirm or deny what Ian was saying about the SS organizers thought of me.
I figured as much as Ian claimed to be talking with Berny that he would at least keep tabs on the club. I know if I was going to consider a club across the continent with my event's name, I would be at the very least an active lurker in the club.
In a nutshell, I asked a specific question, not going into details about club business other than "the club is up in arms with the current administration" and I got an honest reply.
I figured as much as Ian claimed to be talking with Berny that he would at least keep tabs on the club. I know if I was going to consider a club across the continent with my event's name, I would be at the very least an active lurker in the club.
In a nutshell, I asked a specific question, not going into details about club business other than "the club is up in arms with the current administration" and I got an honest reply.