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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 02:39 AM
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i hope so.... seems like the bottom side of the cylinder wall would see a lot more wear than the top
Old Dec 7, 2005 | 05:49 AM
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good you seem like the person who should be driving a honda.







j/k.



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Old Dec 7, 2005 | 06:00 AM
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Normally boxer engines should not show excessive wear on one side of the cilinder deu to the horizontal motion of the piston (even though gravity does seem to indicate that it should make a difference).



Not normally would be when the cilinder has a small amount of play on the piston. Then indeed it could get to some spectacular/strange results.



considering a person who posts here would seem to like cars more than average my guess is that you would notice/hearthe difference before problems would arrive.



I drive a honda accord in daily traffic. my advice, don't...



Honda makes nice engines, teh development team spends like 2 years in developing it. then they consider that before the release of the car they also need a chassis they slam together a couple of bars, cover it in plastic/sheet metal and call it a car. In essence, they drive like crap. Front is far to heavy, understeer as a result. These cars have the asthetics of a cannonball in motion. (my opinion)



did manage to make some so, so drifts with teh accord (no mods) but definately only manage to do so when it has rained. Usually they just boulder straight onwards when intending to take a corner.



never tried teh subaru to compare though.
Old Dec 7, 2005 | 06:47 AM
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I really don't think the drifting potential of a car should be considered in selecting a daily driver. The Accord has a good reputation for being a dependable people-mover, and is a good choice for a dd (although I would have gotten the 5-speed).



The Camry is the other choice, and I've got to believe the Honda drives better than it.
Old Dec 7, 2005 | 07:30 AM
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very true, yet force of habit
Old Dec 7, 2005 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by 1988RedT2' post='784471' date='Dec 7 2005, 07:47 AM

I really don't think the drifting potential of a car should be considered in selecting a daily driver. The Accord has a good reputation for being a dependable people-mover, and is a good choice for a dd (although I would have gotten the 5-speed).



The Camry is the other choice, and I've got to believe the Honda drives better than it.


Exactly.



At this point I've driven/checked out a Camry V6, an Automatic Camry 4 cyllander, an automatic 91 Accord, a manual 94 Accord, a manual 98 Subaru Impreza 2.2L, and an Automatic Legacy GT.



Both Subaru's had better handling but the steering response is a bit numb and the wheel moves to easy. The cloth seats in the Impreza are cheap, as is most of the plastics inside. The Legacy was plush but the steering feel was still a bit numb and easy, and the transmission was a bit rough (took forever to shift from 2nd to third, auto). Both Camry's were fine but a bit worse handling that I thought they'd be. Again, the steering feel was a bit worse than what I'm used to in my integra yet, a benefit over the Subaru's is that it felt more refined.



The two accords I drove, the 94+ model handles like a truck. If I turn the wheel I can't feel a thing (which is good for old people I guess?) and the whole car tilts like we're falling off the planet. The 91 Accord my friend has was "Just right". It seems to share the same dash as my integra, and is rock solid. The steering feel is more like my integra, and the car is well built. The car handles more like the integra than a truck, and sits lower. I think the CB7 Accord is less luxurious for the sake of performance than the big update in 94+. The body and overall car is boring but I don't want a car I'll touch up. This I can just leave alone.



I know FWD means understeer, and nose heavy, and yadda yadda. But this is a Daily driver, not a sports car. I'd love to have MORE "Sports" inspiration in my Daily driver (A mazdaspeed 6 or STi would be nice) but I don't want to spend that kind of money.



I don't like automatics but I've been taking lots of road trips and keep hitting traffic here because I'm so close to the city.



I'm still buying a 2nd car (Albeit a Miata or mr2) that will be RWD, light, and a manual...something I can AutoX and daily drive all year besides winter.
Old Dec 7, 2005 | 02:08 PM
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get the miata so you can pick up guys in summer time too
Old Dec 7, 2005 | 04:14 PM
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first off YES gravity does get cancelled out when an object becomes horizontal. I took physics 1 last semester and draw the free motion body diagrams out for it, you'll see that I am right.



Anyways those 90-93 accords are beasts. You can beat the **** out of them and they won't break. Though keep in mind that the mileage they get isn't the best, I think I averaged about 26-27 with mixed highway and city tho then again my car had 240k on the clock.
Old Dec 7, 2005 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Dramon_Killer' post='784578' date='Dec 7 2005, 05:14 PM

first off YES gravity does get cancelled out when an object becomes horizontal. I took physics 1 last semester and draw the free motion body diagrams out for it, you'll see that I am right.



Anyways those 90-93 accords are beasts. You can beat the **** out of them and they won't break. Though keep in mind that the mileage they get isn't the best, I think I averaged about 26-27 with mixed highway and city tho then again my car had 240k on the clock.




so if i go jump off a cliff and lay perfectly horizontal i will float
Old Dec 7, 2005 | 04:17 PM
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no becuase your motion is also traveling vertically too.

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