Actually, I never assumed there is no such thing as a universal truth. It may exist, or it may not, but I'm not one to say. However, I definitely disagree that Christianity is exclusive. The concept would be hard to explain to you because it allows Christianity to exist with other religions and thus circumvents doctrine, instead basing itself solely on the will of a supreme plan (or being). It basically is the idea that God (or universal truth, etc.) has been interpeted differently by all people. Anyways, like I said, I'm not asking you to believe this, more to just note it as a belief.



And to Phoenix - Sorry about misinterpeting your statment

 

bees shouldn't be able to fly according to physics



we know there is wind but we can't see it



dum... that is stuff i know, but im trying to find better examples

 

LOL, I know that. But the bees that "can't fly" do fly. And there's no sign that god does exist or that he has any hand in any creation in the planet. It would be different if **** happend all the time that didnt just seem like a mere coincidence.



Than there would be some hint that this bee really does fly...

 

dude your blind.. i didn't want to get into this convo, nor offend you... but just look around..



you really think evolution could have created what we see now ?



subtract science, and subtract technology etc... drive out somewhere really far away and just chill for a few hours.. look around, it will become hard to believe that a group of gases got together and overtime created what we see now

 

A DURRRRRR



but if you do it the other way around....





subtract religion, and subtract God and his powers of Life etc... drive out somewhere really far away and just chill for a few hours.. look around, it will become hard to believe that a one all powering being got together and overtime created what we see now

 

when i look around i see more of a plan in mind.. like God walked around with a paintbrush and painted what he thought was right..





it makes more sense than a Boom... pooof.. there... and from a lizard came a monkey came a human.. seems far fetched..





its funny how some people feel like they have to rely on science.. sometimes you have to take that leap of faith.

 

Same here, I was brought up in a christian family, and at I had a real genuine shot at it, but the way I see it is if God loves me and wants me to be in heaven, then what is to stop him from zapping me up there? At least when you ask him into your heart (which I genuinely tried when I was younger), you should know for definite, ie. some fireworks and/or flames would be nice - not a whole lot to ask from an all powerful God? Instead you're supposed to rely on your own faith -

I don't know about you but I am not going to convince myself that I am going to heaven on some whim.



I have read the bible cover to cover and it's absolutely full of contradictions, here's a few that I remember (I'm amazed I even remembered these):

"I am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generations."

Firstly, i thought jealousy was a sin, and secondly it says in Ezekiel that "The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father" also, Moses was instructed by God to kill his son, but I was under the imperssion that murder was a sin? "An eye for an eye"; "do not judge" And these are not the half of it, I'm sure google would bring up a lot more.



However I do not regret a single moment of the time I spent at church, because it has helped me make up my mind about a potentially huge issue - eternity is not something to be sneezed at - especially if you're going to be burning in hell



The conclusion I have come to for now is that all belief in god/afterlife stems from the fear of the unknown - its the same as the 16th century explorers who were terrified that they might fall off the edge of the world (BTW the bible says the world is flat). The only difference is that no-one can ever prove what happens when you die. So every now and then someone claims they have the answer - some of these peope are more convinving than others (for instance a BBC newscaster that claimed live on air to be Christ returned was not convinving), but regardless of how convincing they are, they are still wrong.



Just my 2c, I don't claim to have the answer, but until someone comes along with something better, that's what I will believe.



Mark

 

So, you think that people lived alongside dinosaurs?

Why do you think we discover new species every year? Because they were really good at hiding until 2003?



Use your brain for once, instead of blindly following your heart.

 

Well yeah, that's the point!

Faith isn't something that can be proved to you, it's not something you need to have shown to you. You believe because you can. The "rules" aren't there to condem you, and they can't make you a better person simply by fallowing them.

It's the fact that you genuinely know better. That you choose the fallow them, that is the faith. The point that you know the stories, understand good and bad. . and still live for a greater good without having it been proven to you!

I'm not a religious person, but I have faith.

Christian or not, it's basic.

 

and underneath your avatar it says "wanna get high"... hmmm... use your brain for once.. hahaha.. loser