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Old Jan 8, 2004 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob x-7' date='Jan 9 2004, 02:15 AM
my boss has a FFL, he gets them super cheap



he normally only marks his firearms up $50-$100
I wonder if that is better, similar or worse? Not sure what kind of mark-up firearms see.
Old Jan 8, 2004 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Mazderati' date='Jan 8 2004, 09:18 PM
I wonder if that is better, similar or worse? Not sure what kind of mark-up firearms see.
well, he does it as a hobby, most people he gets **** for get high dollar stuff.



I think he basically charges a fee to process all the paper work, which there

is alot of in NY.
Old Jan 8, 2004 | 10:26 PM
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No guns here. But a friend of mine has an assult shotgun inder his bed for home defense. His reasoning is that he car shoot through a wall with it. Plus straight on he WILL hit you with out even trying.



50 Cal Desert Eagle next to a 9mm
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Old Jan 8, 2004 | 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 1988RedT2' date='Jan 8 2004, 01:35 PM
Nothing against Ruger quality, but the look and feel of their product is sloppy. I took a look at the P-series but I couldn't stand the things. Feels really cheap and loose. Those qualities are desirable in a one-night stand, but not in the handgun you choose to live with. But I digress.



The GP-100 does come off a bit better, but it just doesn't have a high-quality look or feel to it.



And I must admit, I own a Ruger 10/22. I think their rifles are pretty neat, I just don't think much of their handguns.



Just my two cents.
Yeah, they are a little rough around the edges. In comparison with Sigs and H&Ks, they're not as fine, but I can't ignore the flawless performance of the P89DC I owned for nearly eight years. It got range time probably a couple times a month while firing my own, calculated loads. Over that period of time, I can't recall any mechanical failures of any kind. That's hard to argue against when you consider the cost of the gun versus, say, a Glock, whose reputation in that regard is much less stellar.



Your assessment of the GP100's appearance is pretty spot on too, but it's the same story as their autos...flawless performance. And it's construction is more robust than comparable guns from other manufacturers.



You can pay $1100 for a 9mm H&K or you can pay $400 for a 9mm Ruger. They'll both perform perfectly. I know there will be an accuracy difference, but in close quarters do you need a gun that can make 2.5-inch groups at 35 yards? What else justifies paying so much more?



Another thing about Ruger is that their customer service is damn good. When I bought my new GP100 one of the wooden grip inserts had been chipped. A quick call to Ruger had a new set in the mail and on my doorstep in three days and at no cost to me. There's an advantage to having American made guns in that service will be much easier. I have no idea what rings you'd have to jump through to get a Sig or H&K serviced.



And I wish people would quit singing about the damn Desert Eagle. It's so impractical for so many reasons. It's just a heavy, expensive showpiece for pimps and moviestars.
Old Jan 9, 2004 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by attomica' date='Jan 8 2004, 11:56 PM
Yeah, they are a little rough around the edges. In comparison with Sigs and H&Ks, they're not as fine, but I can't ignore the flawless performance of the P89DC I owned for nearly eight years. It got range time probably a couple times a month while firing my own, calculated loads. Over that period of time, I can't recall any mechanical failures of any kind. That's hard to argue against when you consider the cost of the gun versus, say, a Glock, whose reputation in that regard is much less stellar.



Your assessment of the GP100's appearance is pretty spot on too, but it's the same story as their autos...flawless performance. And it's construction is more robust than comparable guns from other manufacturers.



You can pay $1100 for a 9mm H&K or you can pay $400 for a 9mm Ruger. They'll both perform perfectly. I know there will be an accuracy difference, but in close quarters do you need a gun that can make 2.5-inch groups at 35 yards? What else justifies paying so much more?



Another thing about Ruger is that their customer service is damn good. When I bought my new GP100 one of the wooden grip inserts had been chipped. A quick call to Ruger had a new set in the mail and on my doorstep in three days and at no cost to me. There's an advantage to having American made guns in that service will be much easier. I have no idea what rings you'd have to jump through to get a Sig or H&K serviced.



And I wish people would quit singing about the damn Desert Eagle. It's so impractical for so many reasons. It's just a heavy, expensive showpiece for pimps and moviestars.
I agree with you. I like Ruger, the company. And their product is no doubt a great value that will perform very well day in and day out.



I'm with you on the Desert Eagle 100%. I wonder how many people who own one shoot it more than once a year. I want a handgun that's comfortable to shoot, not one that makes everybody else at the range look in your direction. And let's face it, lots of people get killed with .25 cal pea-shooters. So what's the point?
Old Jan 9, 2004 | 05:23 PM
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i want the metal gear solid gun, dunno if it's available to public tho... it's the socom right?
Old Jan 9, 2004 | 06:43 PM
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I think might go to one of the shooting ranges tomorrow. Probably rent a few guns to try out including a Glock 9mm and a Glock .45.



I went to a gun dealer today and looked at a few. Looked at a Glock .45, Sig Pro 10mm and a HK USP .45. Based soley on how the guns feel I like the HK USP.
Old Jan 9, 2004 | 07:35 PM
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Try the HK USP compact in the caliber you're interested in. They give you almost the same bullet velocity (shorter barrel) are a bit smaller and with the mag capacity limit they carry the maximum.
Old Jan 9, 2004 | 07:38 PM
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Old Jan 9, 2004 | 08:02 PM
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I've fired a sh!tload of different handguns....357mag and max, 44, 45, 38, 9mm, 22. The one I liked the least was a Glock 9mm. It was recently and the first Glock I've ever fired and I was all excited and thought I'd really like it. The action, trigger pull, accuracy, and feel all SUCKED. Maybe it was just that particular gun, but I was really surprised and dissappointed. Bassed on that, I'd never own one.



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