Buying an AR15
10-26-2005, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by sweet7' post='772686' date='Oct 25 2005, 11:58 PM
I know you Marines are taught to believe that you are the best shooters on earth, and after competing against a few Marine snipers its hard for me to disagree. But c'mon, you're average shooter cant knock down an E-type silloutte at 300m, much less 500m with open sights. I regulary shoot at distances in excess of 800m with the M24SWS. But, even at 500m with a precision .308 its not just point and shoot. I think you are forgetting that 500m is a pretty damn good distance away.
they teach you to do that in 1 week with beat to death rifles, im sure someone with a much more accurate rifle can manage no problem. They dont give you super eye sight to shoot the targets, I would just rather learn on old iron sights and then use the scope later on, this way you know you can shoot.
10-26-2005, 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Rob x-7' post='772777' date='Oct 26 2005, 03:13 AM
they teach you to do that in 1 week with beat to death rifles, im sure someone with a much more accurate rifle can manage no problem. They dont give you super eye sight to shoot the targets, I would just rather learn on old iron sights and then use the scope later on, this way you know you can shoot.
Oh I completely agree that relying on optics is for chumps. But 93 R1 already seems like hes a decent shot. All I'm saying is that 500m+ is a pretty decent distance. He said he wanted to be able to hit a decent sized target at 500m. But unless you are shooting people thats about the only decent sized target he'd be shooting at. The .223 is too small to use for big game in most states, so that pretty much narrows down his targets to varmints and target shooting. Both of which i recommend optics for at 500m+.
But yes, if you're not a decent shot with iron sights you have no buisness with optics.
10-26-2005, 08:42 AM
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Yeah, I've been shooting guns for about 15 years. I'm fairly capable with iron sights. Can't say I've ever tried 500 with irons though.
The new plan of action is this.
Rock River Elite CAR A4 16" chrome lined, mid-length full float handguard, national match trigger, flip up irons, A3 style flat top, a low magnification(2.5x) sight, and possibly an EOtech. Should be great for 100-300 plus meters.
I already have a semi auto AK that is awesome out to 150-200 meters off the irons, even with cheap *** ammo.
For the longer **** I'm gonna grab a Remington 700P or the new FN patrol rifle in .308, with a nice 10x illuminated reticle scope, bipod.
The new plan of action is this.
Rock River Elite CAR A4 16" chrome lined, mid-length full float handguard, national match trigger, flip up irons, A3 style flat top, a low magnification(2.5x) sight, and possibly an EOtech. Should be great for 100-300 plus meters.
I already have a semi auto AK that is awesome out to 150-200 meters off the irons, even with cheap *** ammo.
For the longer **** I'm gonna grab a Remington 700P or the new FN patrol rifle in .308, with a nice 10x illuminated reticle scope, bipod.
10-26-2005, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by GreyGT-C' post='772811' date='Oct 26 2005, 10:39 AM
I had a Daisy Red Rider® BB gun when i was younger. It was very accurate up to about 4 meters.
OK so seriously. Aren't you Special forces? Whats your opinion?
10-26-2005, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by sweet7' post='772803' date='Oct 26 2005, 09:47 AM
Great choice, I full expect pics when you get it!
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Thanks for your help. Feel free to add anything else. Got any pics of your "tools" you can share
