I am organizing a GB for the Microtech stand alones.

We need 5 people minimum for this to happen.



GB deadline is April 31st. However, if we get the requsite number of people sooner, then we can get the Microtechs shipped sooner.



Here are the prices:



LT8S - $775 shipped

LT10S - $875 shipped

LT12S - $975 shipped

Laptop adaptor - $110 shipped

Handheld controller - $135 shipped

DASH unit - $370 shipped



That is for 5-10 people ordering. Shipping is included in the 48 states, and Canada via ground shipping. Hawaii and international shipping is not included.



The GB is sponsored by SpeedMachine / FC3S.org (Dave).

The money will come to me, and I will forward the money to Dave.



I am not here to rip anyone off. I have many positive references, and am willing to provide any and all assurances and information to ensure that you guys feel secure that this deal is on the up and up. So if you have any questions or concerns, feel free to contact me.



E-mail - sunshine1696@juno.com

or PM me.



Also, I have not been able to get approval on the rx7club forum to post the GB. So I would appreciate if you guys would spread the word "unofficially."

-alex



*This message was blessed by our most esteemed moderator vosko https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

Im interested. How is it going to be done......send a deposit and then send balance at close of GB? or Send all before close of GB. What about refunds if the GB does not get the number of people required? Also, what will the price be if it goes over 10 people....just in case that does happen?

How will payments be made....paypal, money order...etc..?

Sorry for all the questions but im sure im not the only one with the same concerns, if not more.

I thought the easiest way is for me to collect the money and organize everybody, and then send one single order into fc3s.org. I want to aviod bothering Dave, so I volunteered to do all the legwork for this. I am not receiving or charging any sort of compensation or kick-back here. My only reward for this is to be one of the 5-10 of the ppl who participate in the GB.



-I did not even think of just asking for a deposit - but that is a good idea! This is what I think is reasonable...I will accept a 15% deposit as a place holder. This deposit will NOT be refundible if YOU back out of the GB. If the GB fails due to NO fault of yours, then the 15% WILL BE refunded. (This is minus transaction costs, if paypal is used. If its a MO, then it only costs a stamp)



-Full refunds will be given to anyone wishing to withdraw from the GB, or in the event the GB fails. (This is minus transaction costs, if paypal is used. If its a MO, then it only costs a stamp)



-I have no details of prices if there are more than 10 ppl, but so far we can't even meet the minimum 5, so I dont think more than 10 is even a concern.



If there are any other questions or concerns, please do not hesitiate to ask. This is a great opportunity to pick up an awsome ECU for a great price.



Please help me spread the word on this GB! Also, this is not limited to Rx-7s. If you have friends with other cars, they can be in on this too! Dave will make sure that the ECU is sent with the appropriate base map for your car. This is one of the things that makes Microtech so good and easy to use. Their pre-programed base maps are really good!

-alex

Put me down for the LT10S and laptop adapter. PM me or post up where to send paypal.

I will help in spreading the word.

[quote name='sunshine' date='Mar 27 2005, 02:56 PM']I thought the easiest way is for me to collect the money and organize everybody, and then send one single order into fc3s.org. I want to aviod bothering Dave, so I volunteered to do all the legwork for this. I am not receiving or charging any sort of compensation or kick-back here. My only reward for this is to be one of the 5-10 of the ppl who participate in the GB.



-I did not even think of just asking for a deposit - but that is a good idea! This is what I think is reasonable...I will accept a 15% deposit as a place holder. This deposit will NOT be refundible if YOU back out of the GB. If the GB fails due to NO fault of yours, then the 15% WILL BE refunded. (This is minus transaction costs, if paypal is used. If its a MO, then it only costs a stamp)



-Full refunds will be given to anyone wishing to withdraw from the GB, or in the event the GB fails. (This is minus transaction costs, if paypal is used. If its a MO, then it only costs a stamp)



-I have no details of prices if there are more than 10 ppl, but so far we can't even meet the minimum 5, so I dont think more than 10 is even a concern.



If there are any other questions or concerns, please do not hesitiate to ask. This is a great opportunity to pick up an awsome ECU for a great price.



Please help me spread the word on this GB! Also, this is not limited to Rx-7s. If you have friends with other cars, they can be in on this too! Dave will make sure that the ECU is sent with the appropriate base map for your car. This is one of the things that makes Microtech so good and easy to use. Their pre-programed base maps are really good!

-alex


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that is kinda contradictory. unless i read it wrong...



also, any idea where one could find info on this ecu for those of us not familiar with it?

www.microtechefi.com From what i remember that is the official site.



Could you get me a price on the x4 ignition box and the bosch coils.

[quote name='Crusader_9x' date='Mar 28 2005, 06:11 PM']www.microtechefi.com From what i remember that is the official site.



Could you get me a price on the x4 ignition box and the bosch coils.


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thanks for the site....





sunshine...

1. the dash controller in this GB, is it the old or new one?

2. dash controller is a "glorified" hand held controller, correct?

3. does the microtech use the factory sensors?

4. how much extra for a 6 ignition module?(whichever is recomended for a non-racing 20B motor)





ALL,

is there any other ECU recommended for a 20B?



thanks

[quote name='treceb' date='Mar 28 2005, 04:48 PM']that is kinda contradictory. unless i read it wrong...


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Yeah, I guess it kinda is https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

But like I said, I really don't want to keep anyones money. All I want is a level of commitment from the participants of the GB. Thats it.

[quote name='treceb' date='Mar 28 2005, 08:51 PM']thanks for the site....

sunshine...

1. the dash controller in this GB, is it the old or new one?

2. dash controller is a "glorified" hand held controller, correct?

3. does the microtech use the factory sensors?

4. how much extra for a 6 ignition module?(whichever is recomended for a non-racing 20B motor)



thanks


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1. I dont know which dash unit it is...I will check with SMP.

2. see these other websites, perhaps they can answer your questions.

3. i am almost sure the microtech is a plu and play unit. All of the sensors are factory.

4. I can call SMP and find out. I'll get back to you.



http://www.microtechfuelinjection.com/

http://www.microtechusa.com/

[quote name='Crusader_9x' date='Mar 28 2005, 06:11 PM']

Could you get me a price on the x4 ignition box and the bosch coils.


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I will check with SMP. Stay tuned!

-a

[quote name='sunshine' date='Mar 28 2005, 10:41 PM']I will check with SMP. Stay tuned!

-a


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Update....?

count me in I WILL BE IN ON THIS,



-Chris

I think that brings the count to 4. Just need at least 1 more to make this happen.

Any more updates???

Sorry Guys. I was out of town w/o access to the computer.

I will post up answers to all your questions soon.

-a

UPDATE:



I spoke to Matt at SMP (Dave was not available b/c they have spent every waking hour in the past week assembling the Falken Drift Car). This is what I have from Matt:



1) SMP will accept payment directly. They will accept MO or Paypal. Their Paypal addy is sales@speedmachineperformance.com. If you are sending payment to them directly, then make sure you label the payment very clearly stating that it is money for the Microtech GB, and obviously, include what unit + accessories you are buying.



2) The Dash controller is the new unit. The old unit is, well, old.



3) X4 ign box and coils - Dave will get me prices, as Matt did not know.



4) 6 ign module - Dave will get me prices, as Matt did not know.



So far,

We have 4 ppl.

1) me

2) crusader7x

3) dvls

4)chris-reedtn

5) ???



as soon as we have a 5th person, we can send the cash https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

-a

i am your 5th! need an lt8 x and a handheld controller. Only prob is I need by april 12th!! Does this include plug and play harness? let's see if we can get this done! paypal standing by...

come on guys I need this sucker shipped asap.let me know how i can help..386-566- 7717 Garret.....

can you get readings from the handheld or do you need the dash unit....might be switching to dash unit if need be..Thanks.. Oh yea. i meant lt8s up top sorry.....

i guess no one is anxious to get this done.i'll call them myself...

It seems as its coming together but there seems to be some unanswered questions.

I have a couple also....basically in regards to the deposit and the balance at the end of GB? Is that still in effect or do we just send the whole amount before or on the date of GB end?

Since SMP is willing to play the role of collector, we will all just send the money to them. I am still trying to get a hold of Dave to answer the few remaining pricing questions from above. Then I will contact the remaining 4 ppl, and make sure we have everybody on board.

-a

[quote name='Crusader_9x' date='Mar 28 2005, 06:11 PM']www.microtechefi.com From what i remember that is the official site.



Could you get me a price on the x4 ignition box and the bosch coils.


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[quote name='sunshine' date='Apr 5 2005, 06:37 PM']UPDATE:



I spoke to Matt at SMP (Dave was not available b/c they have spent every waking hour in the past week assembling the Falken Drift Car). This is what I have from Matt:



1) SMP will accept payment directly. They will accept MO or Paypal. Their Paypal addy is sales@speedmachineperformance.com. If you are sending payment to them directly, then make sure you label the payment very clearly stating that it is money for the Microtech GB, and obviously, include what unit + accessories you are buying.



2) The Dash controller is the new unit. The old unit is, well, old.



3) X4 ign box and coils - Dave will get me prices, as Matt did not know.



4) 6 ign module - Dave will get me prices, as Matt did not know.



So far,

We have 4 ppl.

1) me

2) crusader7x

3) dvls

4)chris-reedtn

5) ???



as soon as we have a 5th person, we can send the cash https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

-a


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I hope that the above is not suppose to be me, becase i never said i was in as you can see above. I wanted a price, if i can afford it with the x4 and the coils then i might.

i have tried to call them everday for the last few and just get machine.. hopefully we can get this rolling.. thanks for chiming w/ info. guys..standing by...

Hey! I want in on this, too!! I tried contacting FC3s.org about this but I couldnt get a reply. I will buy a LT8S right now if this is still happening. Should I try to contact Dave again (like call them)?

Man, sunshine, why did you stop returning my emails



You know the deal i was working with Microtech was better than this.



I really dont want to step on your toes with this one...

[quote name='OneEyedJack' date='Apr 10 2005, 01:31 PM']



I returned all your emails.





last we spoke, the deal was not better.







No worries. I dont have any vested interest in this deal. I dont care if the GB is thru SMP, MicrotechEFI, or the devil himself. All I care about is getting us the ECU for as little money as possible.



Do you have a vested interest in the MicrotechEFI GB? You are pushing pretty hard. Also, how did you get permission to post up on rx7club.com? They would not respond to my requests for permission to set up the GB.





To everyone else - go check out the other GB and see which you like better. If you all like the other GB better, then we can do that one and drop this one.

-a

[quote name='sunshine' date='Apr 10 2005, 03:49 PM']

I returned all your emails.

last we spoke, the deal was not better.

I really dont want to step on your toes with this one...


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No worries. I dont have any vested interest in this deal. I dont care if the GB is thru SMP, MicrotechEFI, or the devil himself. All I care about is getting us the ECU for as little money as possible.



Do you have a vested interest in the MicrotechEFI GB? You are pushing pretty hard. Also, how did you get permission to post up on rx7club.com? They would not respond to my requests for permission to set up the GB.

To everyone else - go check out the other GB and see which you like better. If you all like the other GB better, then we can do that one and drop this one.

-a


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Sorry if there was some miscommunication between us Sunshine, last i rememberd i had sent an email asking what you wanted to do about all of it... its ok its no big deal https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png probably my fault of memory



And Microtech got back to me, they forgot to take out the 10% GST (tax) from their price. So the deal i got from them does work out better in the end, even though we must pay shipping.



Vosko said he wanted to see what happens with this group buy before he puts up my GB thread here.



With all the people in this buy plus me and Kahren, we have almost 10 people already. There will be an even better deal if we can break the 20 mark.

I'm going to PM Vosko.



As for my vested interest in this group buy, the extent of it is the fact that its an amazing deal. That and i really need a unit myself to get my car on the road. What i didn't want is to have two group buys running side by side interfering with number of participants.



I think just like you, people deserve the best deal. I've in fact paid a fee out of my own pocket to allow a Group Buy Thread to be posted on other forums such as zilvia.net (they charge a one time fee to post each group buy)



Ill keep everyone updated, as for now, i have threads up on rx7club.com and teamfc3s.



I got permission for rx7club by talking to an admin on AIM. I guess i just got lucky or something :P

Where is the thread located on rx7club? I didn't see it in the group buy section.

[quote name='dvls-7' date='Apr 10 2005, 09:42 PM']Where is the thread located on rx7club? I didn't see it in the group buy section.


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Yeah, their Admins are VERY CONFUSED.



I had already worked out the agreement to have the group buy posted with one admin, and another one deleted my thread because he thought it did not belong there.



I am working it out right now, and the thread at rx7club will be back up in no time.

Lets not make things complicated, please. Like OneEyedJack said, we all just want a damn good ECU for a damn good price. So lets make this happen!!! Is the deadline still April 30th? Sooner would be better, but I can wait a few weeks more to save ~$300!!

anything happening yet? If not i must go another route need 1 by Thursday4/14..thanks guys...

Ok, i am just going to copy the thread that i have posted on other forums right here to get the information on my buy to you guys.



I have been in contact with Microtech over the past 2 months. We have been working out the fine details on running this group buy; and here it is.



I was reluctant to post this until all the bumps were smoothed out. Finally, we are ready to roll!!! The deal is so amazing, I am still astonished.



This group buy is for Microtech Standalone EMS units and listed accessories.

All purchases come with a "Microtech Pack" that includes a small sticker, large sticker, and a Microtech EFI T-shirt!!!



So, HERE WE GO:



Step 1 Unit Prices:

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LT8 $767 USD and free hand controller unit

LT10 $839 USD and free hand controller unit

LT12 $910 USD and free hand controller unit

X4 and X6 IGN units $106 USD

4 coils $137 USD

3 bar map sensor upgrade $137 USD



International Shipping to the USA is approximately $50 USD for one EMS unit.

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Product Descriptions available at Microtech's Official Website.



Anyone can instead substitute a Laptop Adaptor and requisite Software in place of the free hand controller unit.

Retail Value of the Hand Controller in this buy is $137 USD, Retail Value of the Laptop adaptor and software in this buy is $95 USD.



Step 2 How to get in on the group buy:

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All you need to do is send me an e-mail at violentcatharsis@hotmail.com



All payments will be submitted directly to Microtech. I will not be handling the payments. I will put you in contact with Dale, an associate of Microtech EFI to handle the payments.

So far, we are ONLY accepting payments VIA PAYPAL.

If paypal is a problem for you, please contact me. I might be able to help you work it out.



We need a minimum of 10 people for this group buy to go through!!!

The cutoff date for this group buy is May 15th 2005. That gives everyone a little over 4 weeks to get money together, get questions answered, and get payment to Microtech!!



This group buy is open to anyone, not just members of this forum. So, if you know anybody who needs one of these amazing units, tell them about this great deal!



If anyone has any questions at all, please e-mail me. I do not check this thread or my PM as often as i check my e-mail. If you need, leave me a PM or a reply here and I will get back as soon as I possibly can.



Judging by Sunshines list, we currently have:

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1. Sunshine

2. OneEyedJack

3. Kahren

4. bob13bt

5. dvls

6. chris-reedtn

7. crusader9x (i am listing you here tentatively, is the price i have on the x4 unit low enough?

8.

9.

10.



So we are almost there.... g's 3rd gen, you need it at your home by the 14th? I don't think its going to make it from Australia even if we put the cash order in right now :(



Please let me know if you still want to be included in the group buy, i think even if you guys were to order from SMP it would not make it there by the 14th.



To everyone else that was in on this group buy, i will be contacting you for your information. Thanks!!



-Jack

Yeah go ahead and count me in. I'll have the full amount in about a week.



Also can you get a price on the gm sensors if microtech sells them?

[quote name='Crusader_9x' date='Apr 11 2005, 06:40 PM']Yeah go ahead and count me in. I'll have the full amount in about a week.



Also can you get a price on the gm sensors if microtech sells them?


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Ok, please PM me your email Crusader.



I dont think Microtech sells the GM sensors. I will ask them though.

Alright, i have everyone's email who is on the list.



We need 3 more people.



I am still waiting to hear back from Microtech on the questions that i have sent them.



-Jack

[quote name='OneEyedJack' date='Apr 12 2005, 09:31 AM']Alright, i have everyone's email who is on the list.



We need 3 more people.



I am still waiting to hear back from Microtech on the questions that i have sent them.



-Jack


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I stand corrected. I just checked my rx7club threads, and i got 2 more.



WE NEED ONE MORE PERSON

the price looks good.

any idea how much it would be for 6 coils?

if my project wasnt on hold till next year, at least, id jump on this.

[quote name='treceb' date='Apr 12 2005, 12:04 PM']the price looks good.

any idea how much it would be for 6 coils?

if my project wasnt on hold till next year, at least, id jump on this.


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I will check the pricing on 6 coils as opposed to 4 coils.



Also, i just got a 10th buyer in from rx7club.



Once i get this round of questions answered, i will be sending out payment information via e-mail.

OK here are answers to the questions:



Dash unit will be around $320 USD



6 coils will be around $210 USD



I got the pricing on the GM sensors and GM TPS, but part of their answer to me was confusing. I am going to get some clarification on it for you ASAP



Also, to anyone not in the buy, we will continue to place orders in groups of 5 up until may 15th!!!! We need to be in groups of 5 each for this though.

UPDATE:



GM Sensors are about $60 USD for water and air



GM TPS is around $120 USD



You will need to specify to me when you order whether or not u are getting the GM sensors so they can set your unit for the GM sensors.



Sending you a PM Crusader.