im in the process of building up my car ..... with a single turbo and ported engine



money is kinda tight and i have a great great deal on a Vmount intercooler setup, but i can save about 800 dollars if i go with a front mount.



i've been very excited about the V mount but reality might come into play, i can afford both, but i can afford a F mount sooner.....



V mount = More Bling

F mount = More Bigger (not by much)



opinions are welcome https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

I've been VERY happy with my V mount. It's a rotary extreme kit. Very https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bling.gif



I haven't been able to enjoy it because my motor go boom...

It sure does look nice though...



On the last trip my car took, I was very happy with the cool temps. Also for the first time my IC and rad were very cool to the touch. It's a little more $ but I thought it was worth it. Pic is in my gallery.



Thanks Chuck https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683827.gif

it really depends on what you want to do with the car... with a v-mount or a front mount, you wouldn't have to worry about heatsoak so much. i think it all comes down to engine cooling.



i personally lean towards a v-mount or horizontal mount setup. sharing the incoming air between the rad, ic and intake should lead to everything one would want. of course, v-mount and h-mounts are kinda spendy, but you know how it goes with paying more and getting more.



in my mind, v-mount is the way to go when choosing between v-mount and front mount.

thanks for the responses......



keep em coming https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

front mount for me all the way. No way in hell a v-mount IC will fit with a 20B conversion....unless the IC is REALLY small.

hmmmm i think we have different plans for our cars.....hehe

sticking with 13b in mine.



http://www.rotaryextreme.com/monstervmount-2.jpg



nope will not fit a 20b conversion

Martin, remember what we talked about a while ago. You shuold just get a Spearco core and do a V-Mount setup for about the same money and some fab skills for the same price as an FMIC setup.



I'm partial to H-Mount's, **** I can't wait to get my car.

well............. since i have the hooks up..... sparco core might be more expensive for me to fabricate.



and i have an H mount for sale if anyone wants it

i would have thought that a fmic would have better cooling capabilities than the others? i have a greddy fmic and i love it...

Dibs!

Don't you get cooling problems with the radiator?

What Martin is referring to is that the FM cools more efficiently, at the expense of blocking the radiator. I'd say go V Mount if you plan to track the car.

front mount all the way baby!. all this talk of cooling problems with a front mount are BS to me. my temps are no different with my frount mount. Possibly, if you have the a/c condenser still in the car, it may run higher due to the radiator now being the 3'd thing for the air to pass through. but a/c is for pussies anyway!! A good FMIC, and some foam rubber to seal around the intercooler is all you need. yeah the v-mount is bling, but the front mount is intimidating.

I don't think the benefits outweight the cost. A car with a front mount and properly ducted upgraded radiator should not overheat. That and no matter what you do, any intecooler in the engine bay is going to heat soak.

I like my front mount, no overheat problems ever......



I think V-mounts should stay on the track.....



I like the look of them, but I dont if I need to change a belt or pulley or a hose, since you have to take it out everytime....

I'm not sure how you can do a poll because people would have to have used "both" and I doubt you will even find one person that has. I think the front mount is more Bling because your hood is allways closed and a V-Mount would look stock. I can't deny I love the HKS V-Mount though.



Instead of the V-Mount, You can get a 3-row Mazdacomp radiator, upgrade your fans to '99+ 5 & 7 blades, then add some fans to the FMIC tapped into the radiator fan wiring. If you still wanna spend more and be more efficien replace the radiator fan motors to 99+ as well. You still have cash leftover? ok, buy a vented hood since you'd have to buy one for a V-Mount to work anyhow.

Since i'm gonna be driving it aswell, i think you should go with the V-mount. i like the https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bling.gif and the no-big-intercooler-in-the-front-look so it looks like a sleeper

That would be sweet if he did get a 20b conversion

RMIC all the way..



Roof Mount IC



LOL



https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif



Seriously though.. FMIC for me. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

FD will never be a sleeper.



If you have the money, go with teh VMount.



IF not, a FMIC is just as good...



Vmount seems like a new trend these days

true... FD's can't be a sleeper, but so it'll be sleepier https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif i guess. But atleast for the V-mount, martin cause use the hood scoop

Damn, I don't know. FMIC, major intimidation!! VMIC, makes you lightheaded when you pop the hood, that is the hot **** there!! I can't imagine there would be that much of a difference between the two performance wise. If I had unlimited funds, I would go Monster V-mount from Rotary Extreme. And if you still like how the FMICs look you can get the twin Monster Oil coolers. With the right front bumper that would look rediculous!! Kinda like my avatar!! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif

i think ill make good use of my vented hood and go V

YAY!!

from what i hear front mounts cause more problems dont they. they block air from getting to the radiator. never had one but this is what ive heard.

Some people have had problems.



That seems to be the minority though..

i did have overheating problems when i installed my fmic. i had to cut the stock bumper to make it fit. my power fc said it was anywhere between 95 deg celcius and 105 degrees which is too hot. i then crashed my car but i get it back pretty quick here and i put on the mazdaspeed gtc kit. it has a big mouth on it and should eliminate that issue. plus when i got enough dough im getting the feed vented hood...

i always wanted to go vmount but just thought of that it would make working on the motor harder, crammed engine bay. i really think its preference though.

the v mount intercooler is held up with 2 bolts and 2 couplers... so i dont know about the difficulties it gives in working in the engine bay

ive had my front mount for a year now and i love it. Imagine what you could do with the other 800 you would be saving while not sacrificing any eficiency. I mean you could get a kaz lsd for around that...just my two cents! good luck

Thank you, I was waiting for someone to say this. You can have a stock FD and just lower it an inch and it'll look like it can annihilate a Pegani Zonda LOL. I have a pic of SilverNinetyThree's lowered car with the stock rims on that I can't seem to find right now, the car looks like it's ready to explode upon anything which moves.

You do know that the stock FD fans don't come on until 95/100/105C. You weren't overheating. Your power FC had that built into it. Only way to change it is to get a datalogit and turn the fans down.



I have NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER had overheating problems with a FMIC. Proper ducting and a fan temperature set at 85C. I NEVER have cooling issues.

Lol. what pic was that? I probably have it on my computer.

Interesting topic guys. Good reading/learning for me.

from what ive read on this issue, it seems that vmount is a little better but not by much and people who have done the fanmod shouldn't really worry about their radiator much. but im also wondering if it could be done with the stock hood and if it would lose much effectiveness.



and its not much of a sleeper. i think its the most beautiful car and thats why i got it. i have no wing, no outrageous body kit. just a nice front bumper, and a dark red paint job. thats the perfect look to me. and i really dont think anyone looking at the car will not think that it is fast, especially after i get my wheels. the only sleeperiness would be if someone thought the car was stock if thats what you meant. but even then its not much of a sleeper.

That's exactly what i meant..... that the car looks less modded than what it actually is. No FMIC showing=sleeperienss

I never had real bad heatsoak with my SMIC, but it was just too small.. I got the FMIC for a GOOD price so I couldn't pass it up.. I like them both honestly, sure the VMIC sounds and looks nice, but I've never had problems, so I'm not going to dish out the skribble for something I don't need.. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

ive had FMIC and SMIC.. i really looked into VMIC but its just too expensive and kinda cluttery looking. I prefer SMIC over all the types so far.. but i would only use a LARGE SMIC if i were to do it again.. looks cleaner.