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Old May 17, 2005 | 11:15 PM
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ffs it is inches of mercury. not psi not grams... 15 isnt bad for a no smog eqp car. what is the idle speed?
Old May 17, 2005 | 11:36 PM
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the idle speed is at 7-800 rpms
Old May 18, 2005 | 05:22 AM
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[quote name='HobbeZ' date='May 18 2005, 12:36 AM']the idle speed is at 7-800 rpms

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Okay, lets try this once more. 15inches is fine for 7-800rpms.
Old May 18, 2005 | 05:37 AM
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vacuum is directly related to altitude and barometric pressure. think about it, if the air is thinner the maximum amount of possible vacuum the engine could make is lower....if your reading is stable and your car runs fine i wouldn't worry about it.
Old May 18, 2005 | 05:50 AM
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ErnieT sorry didn't want to reitterated the thing again i was jsut trying to answer the post above it asked by TampaFD.. Just for piece of mind i'm got a compressor tester and going to check it out (granted it is sort of inaccurate but piece of mind is always nice)
Old May 18, 2005 | 05:56 AM
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the main reason why i posted it is because i've heard many ppl getting higher vac levels etc and i'm trying to make sure this motor is good. Living in hawaii shipping is a real pain in the butt and i want to reduce the amoutn of hassles involved. thank you for all the helpful comments much appericiated
Old May 18, 2005 | 07:45 AM
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as others have already indicated...

your numbers are within range... if theres still a concern..

compression test is in order.. could be the accuracy of your gauge as well...
Old May 18, 2005 | 09:09 AM
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FWIW,

I don't remember the exact numbers, but a friend rebuilt his engine according to clearance specs for the side seals in the Rotary Aviation video. His vac was lower than what he expected with the fresh engine as well. He recently mentioned that when he was getting a tune he spoke with Steve Kan about it, who recommended much tighter clearances than the video, for that very reason. Still, I don't think that it was considered a big deal. In any event IIRC, that car still dynoed at about 360 RWHP with basic bolt-ons.
Old May 18, 2005 | 10:28 AM
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The problem is no air pump - if you're running the stock ECU, you'll lose a few inches of vacuum with no air pump, have a rough idle, and have bad on/off throttle transition. IMHO you shouldn't be ditching the air pump with the stock ECU - not only will the car not run so hot, but with no cats you're getting into the danger zone with the stock ECU.



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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 03:04 PM
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[quote name='ErnieT' date='May 17 2005, 11:22 PM']15inches is fine. If you want to be really sure, go to Sears, buy a compression tester, take out the shrader valve, and as one person cranks the engine you look at the gauge. You should have 3 consecutive hits at around 90/90/90. Anything below 70 isn't really good.

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I get 3 hits in the mid 90s. The vacuum on my all stock Rx7 is 16.75 to 17. Skip at KDRotary says that my vacuum is on the low side. My Rx7 doesn't recover back to idle very quick. Here is the e-mail exchange between us:



"Sure sounds like a lazy idle air control valve! If the codition of the engine is getting week the vacumn is low the valve will be slow in reacting! Hope this helps...Skip"

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"Well at the normal idle with the engine warmed up the vacuum floats between 16.75 and 17. I'll look into the idle air control valve.

Thanks for you help,

Keith"

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"Yeah that's on the low side"...Skip



In addition, regarding compression, the Mazda manual says that "compression pressure" should be 100 psi "minimum".



So with all of these numbers floating around from different posts I'd have to say that my Mazda engine is getting weak with my posted numbers. But it's very unclear from the manual and from these posts what good is for vacuum and compression. Guess I'll just look for burning oil.



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