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Old 04-07-2004, 08:38 AM
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Ok... Here's the deal for those of you with the patience to read all my crap.



I fought the surging idle for a few days and FINALLY got it straightened out. I had to bring the idle up to about 1200 RPMS as the damn port in my motor is pretty agressive.. ANYWAY, yesterday I took it to the store.



I went in the store and the car was 82 degrees C. Didn't leave the fans on as the battery is near death and I didn't feel like being stranded.. Came out to 86 degrees C. Normal, of course for the temps to go up after a few minutes of shutdown.. WELL, when I started the car, the goddamn surge was back. It's still driveable, but at idle it wont settle. I took it home and let it cool off, and the surge was gone..



WTF. I read a BAZILLION threads on the other forum about this. None gave me any real info as to what causes this. I have no AC, no PS, the IAC is unplugged... you name it.



What happens at 86 degrees C that makes my car retarded? Any info is great.
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Old 04-07-2004, 08:57 AM
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Did you look at the map when it was surging? Find the sell and see if you can lean it out a bit or richen and hopefully it will make and effect. You have a PFC?
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Justin...you still haven't gotten with me on AIM...it's your idle, not mine.
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Old 04-07-2004, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Dont_Be_A_Rikki' date='Apr 7 2004, 07:57 AM
Did you look at the map when it was surging? Find the sell and see if you can lean it out a bit or richen and hopefully it will make and effect. You have a PFC?
I did look at it in the map tracer (Yes, PFC), but was afraid to try and modify the cells because I had this question:



Since the surging occurs when car is hot: Will modding the cells during the surging create a poor condition (lean or rich) in the maps when the car is running normally?



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Originally Posted by jspecracer7' date='Apr 7 2004, 09:13 AM
Justin...you still haven't gotten with me on AIM...it's your idle, not mine.
I know!! I never see you on there.. Damn time difference!! And I don't have IM at work.. Bastard firewalls..



I'm not trying to avoid you mang!! I know you know you shiot. (Is there any other way we could discuss this while I'm at work?) I imagine I could call you or something.. You on base still or anything?
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Old 04-07-2004, 10:32 AM
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Do you run the idle speed motor doohicky?



IAC? Idle Air Controller? Are these the same thing?
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Old 04-07-2004, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 9BASE3' date='Apr 7 2004, 10:26 AM
I know!! I never see you on there.. Damn time difference!! And I don't have IM at work.. Bastard firewalls..
have u tried this...



www.aimexpress.aol.com



or



http://www.aim.com/get_aim/express/aim_expr.adp?aolp=
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Old 04-07-2004, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by treceb' date='Apr 7 2004, 10:25 AM
Well, damn! Thanks it worked!
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It may have to do with the temp correction settings.
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Originally Posted by 93 R1' date='Apr 7 2004, 11:01 AM
It may have to do with the temp correction settings.
Please.. Elaborate.



It's DEFINATELY temperature related as it runs like a champ till it gets to 86 degrees C.
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