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Rx-7 Vs. ???? (this One Should Be Popular)

Old Jan 24, 2003 | 03:41 AM
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stock s5 turbo is 200 hp big guy,

and just adding lets say rb exhaust is a 60 hp gain, intake lets say 8



thats 268 an some more with some tweaking with the turbo



An weight???

we know the t2 is so much less by more than 350z by atleast 200 maybe 300 pounds



now does that sound like a good race



s5 t2 = 268 hp but lighter

vs.

2003 350z = 280 hp and heavier
Old Jan 24, 2003 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by CrazyAssRX7' date='Jan 24 2003, 09:41 AM
stock s5 turbo is 200 hp big guy,

and just adding lets say rb exhaust is a 60 hp gain, intake lets say 8



thats 268 an some more with some tweaking with the turbo



An weight???

we know the t2 is so much less by more than 350z by atleast 200 maybe 300 pounds



now does that sound like a good race



s5 t2 = 268 hp but lighter

vs.

2003 350z = 280 hp and heavier
my dad's old sentra just blew a trans seal, he wants to trade it in and get a new car. on the phone yesterday he said he wants to get a 350z and that he might get a 6 speed manual.



I think working on my fc and fiero in his garage for the last few years has infected him. Maybe he wants to race I keep telling him the 350z is a heavy pig of a car, I guess he'll just have to learn the hard way. If my NA pumps out ~240hp and I get it down to around 2400lbs he's going to get a bad schooling in the subject of power:weight ratios. but damnit I want a close ratio 6 speed in my FC :rant:
Old Jan 24, 2003 | 03:14 PM
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my dad's old sentra just blew a trans seal, he wants to trade it in and get a new car. on the phone yesterday he said he wants to get a 350z and that he might get a 6 speed manual.



I think working on my fc and fiero in his garage for the last few years has infected him. Maybe he wants to race I keep telling him the 350z is a heavy pig of a car, I guess he'll just have to learn the hard way. If my NA pumps out ~240hp and I get it down to around 2400lbs he's going to get a bad schooling in the subject of power:weight ratios. but damnit I want a close ratio 6 speed in my FC
I think there was a thread about putting a 6 speed in an FC. I beat that 350Z's gonna be pretty quick though.. kick your dad's ***!! :smirk:
Old Jan 24, 2003 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by rx7machine' date='Jan 24 2003, 09:14 PM
my dad's old sentra just blew a trans seal, he wants to trade it in and get a new car. on the phone yesterday he said he wants to get a 350z and that he might get a 6 speed manual.



I think working on my fc and fiero in his garage for the last few years has infected him. Maybe he wants to race I keep telling him the 350z is a heavy pig of a car, I guess he'll just have to learn the hard way. If my NA pumps out ~240hp and I get it down to around 2400lbs he's going to get a bad schooling in the subject of power:weight ratios. but damnit I want a close ratio 6 speed in my FC
I think there was a thread about putting a 6 speed in an FC. I beat that 350Z's gonna be pretty quick though.. kick your dad's ***!! :smirk:
yeah it will probably be decent quick, but he's not getting the track model so it won't be fast... base won't have LSD, TCS, or VCD... he will likely sit spinning while I wind out 1st > 9k base model is ~3200lbs, not too shabby, with the 280hp it should be a good matchup for the fc won't be very nimble though.
Old Jan 24, 2003 | 04:31 PM
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I was going to say that all the 350z have the same horsepower, but never mind
Old Jan 24, 2003 | 08:11 PM
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by todays government crash standards..the 350 is a bantam weight...the 350 would murder a stock t2 on a road course...all the body stiffness and nice big brakes help out a lot...and who ever thinks that they arent nimble has not driven one yet...chassis engineering these days has a way of defying physics



a 03 plymouth voyager has a higher amout of lateral grip than a 86 rx7



your standard 4 door sedan scoots to 60mph in less that 9 sec 10 years ago that was a sports car



a new 03 front drive Mazda 6 (sport) has more lateral grip than a 93 NSX
Old Jan 24, 2003 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Apex13B' date='Jan 25 2003, 02:11 AM
by todays government crash standards..the 350 is a bantam weight...the 350 would murder a stock t2 on a road course...all the body stiffness and nice big brakes help out a lot...and who ever thinks that they arent nimble has not driven one yet...chassis engineering these days has a way of defying physics



a 03 plymouth voyager has a higher amout of lateral grip than a 86 rx7



your standard 4 door sedan scoots to 60mph in less that 9 sec 10 years ago that was a sports car



a new 03 front drive Mazda 6 (sport) has more lateral grip than a 93 NSX
same tires, 03 voyager vs 86 rx-7 will not have the results you speak of, tires came a long way since then, and are a huge variable.



No car is defying physics here, lower mass, easier to accelerate, in any direction.



look at this:

http://clubrx.org/grm88tii/Page_2.htm



The test surface used for the evaluation was an asphalt surface, and it was pretty bumpy. Nevertheless, our baseline tests verified Mazda's claimed lateral acceleration for the RX-7 Turbo. With the original equipment tires and wheels, and inflation pressures of 32 psi both front and rear, the RX-7 Turbo was able to generate 0.865 g of cornering force. After we completed the modifications described above and made our tire inflation adjustments, we measured the car's final lateral acceleration at 1.0065 g. Not bad for a stocker, eh?
Old Jan 25, 2003 | 02:20 PM
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There is a weight advantage on the 350z(it has a weight problem) I think it weight 3000+lbs's compared to a TII you need about ~200rwhp to beat them that much power I have been told give the TII the same pwr to weight ratio. I beliieve 160hp on an s5 would make it an N/a :bigthumg:
Old Jan 25, 2003 | 03:27 PM
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so can a s5 tii beat any Bmw M3?
Old Jan 25, 2003 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by deiwales' date='Jan 25 2003, 04:27 PM
so can a s5 tii beat any Bmw M3?
no way in hell a stock TII will beat a new M3.



And what apex said is so true, todays chassis are so much better,

mostly due to the stiffness and strength of the frames.

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