Jims5543

To Wire an FD ECU in will take a lot of work. You have to hunt through the chassis wiring harness and find all the necessary connections then match them up with the FD ECU. It sounds simple but it is not. I am not 100% sure everything will work after that as well.



Plus, like Mazdadrifter said, your putting in 12 year old wires, sensors etc.. You will be chasing around problems from then on.



I mean, if your on a really tight budget and dont mind spending all that time wiring in an old harness go for it. Nothing is impossible. Its just the payoff for all that work is very limited.

Ricer240sx

i do appreciate a stand alone, im just saying, to get the motor in and running u can go with out one and it will be the same amount of work!! it just seemed like he was on a budget as a lot of us are





and i still dont see how u can neglegt the wiring with a stand alone but not with the stock ecu!!!

mazdadrifter

you have obviously not installed a stand alone ecu, so you are ill infomed to help this guy with your input.



going fast costs money, grow an addiction to ramen noodles like the rest of us.

Ricer240sx

acctualy i have! well, not personaly but i was sitting 2" from my buddy when he did, and he spliced into teh wiring harness leaving the stock ecu in (it was the EMS stinger3 in a nissan 240sx)



so that would mean that u would need to have the body harness spliced into the engine harness for everything to work right!!



but, sence im wrong, then how do u get all the components inside the car to work?? cause if the 13b engine harness wont work on a 13brew how do u get the body harness to connect to the engine harness so it can hook up into the ecu???



u are making no sence what so ever here!! u have to splice the body harness into the engine harness or ECU harness when using stand alone, thus making it just as hard as using the stock ecu!!!



stop telling me that i dont know what im talking about! if i dont know what im talking about then proove it instead of telling me what i have and havent done!! i cant learn unless u teach!

illrida1300

bro that swap looks incrediblew man. Ive never seen anythign liek that aroudn here. Where i live all i see is freakign civics adn golfs. no rotaries being hooked up.



I was teh first to get a fd but i hit it in teh rain.



your car is great but there is no way i can afford to do that.



All i want to do is out a rew motor in a fc. and get a new intercooler. i dotn want anythign that crazy, cause i woudl kill myself. All i need is to spank teh crap out of all these civics here that think they are the sh*t cause they run high 13 in a 1/4 mile.



my fd ran a 12.4 with a automatic od tranny and now that i dotn have it anymore im devistated.



I have the whoel car but it costs too much to fix



Im asking how much it would cost to just put teh fd motor in a tII and if you kno anybody from jersey or new york area that would do it.



I apreciate all of the help.



I would try to do it myself but i dotn kno as much as you guys do.

banzaitoyota

12.4 second auto fd?



sniff?

Jims5543

I think we all agree its very doable.



The biggest PITA will be sitting down with the FD wiring diagrams and FC diagrams and finding all the correct wires to match up. Again if on a budget and you have the time then go for it. Personally I would save my money for a while and get a stand alone then you can make your car grow easily with your needs.



illrida1300- What your proposing to do will take a LOT of time. If your planning on paying someone to do it it will cost some money.



I used a stock FD manual flywheel and TII tranny with a TII clutch. The FD clutch works opposite and will not work but the FC TII clutch will match up with the FD flywheel friction surface. The starter isnt too happy about the marriage but its sticking around for the ride after each use.



Then like Mazdrifter said you need a FMIC and plumbing for it as well. These things get expensive. The motor mounts will have to be custom made, again that = expensive.



What your proposing to do cannot be achieved on a shoestring budget. I honstly dont think so.

banzaitoyota

Is your shop equpped with a welder? Cutting Torch? Are you pproficient with them? Do you have a Digital Multimeter? Do you know how to use it and what it is telling you? Do you have LOTS of spare time?



What is your budget? What are your capabilities? What facilities do you have available to you? BE REALISTIC

mazdadrifter

i'm trying to tell you if you will open your ears.



using a stand alone ecu, you can bolt a tt rotary to your lawnmower if you want. The only thing that would be more difficult (than the drivetrain adapting obviously) is to organize the charging and starting mechanisms. In which case you could probably rig something up to work, but that's not the point.



with a stand alone you start fresh. you use a couple connectors and all fresh wires, and depending on the ecu, all fresh sensors. you have a shiney new wireing harness with a shiney new book that tells you exacltey where everything goes. then you just lay out the harness, cut it to length, then soder and shrink wrap it. secure the harness. that's simplified, but is basically how it works.



why not just use a stock ecu? because stock sucks that's why. You do all that work, and trust me chasing color coded, oil covered, dirty old brittle wires sucks ******* donkey *****. and after you do all that? YOU HAVE A STOCK MOTOR! what about when you want to turn up the boost? or add bigger injectors? or tweak timing? either you sit around and call yourself a dumbass, or you get a 500 dollar piggy back setup, then call yourself a dumbass because you could've started fresh with a standalone for 1k. stock sucks, stock sucks, stock sucks



i don't care how many you've witnessed or seen on tuner transformation, stock is ****. if you want to put a v8 in the thing then any monkey can make power out of that, but if you actually want the ability to tune the car and get those last couple hp, then there is no question.



and humping someone's leg while they soder and shrink wrap doesn't mean ****. it sure as hell doesn't mean that you know what your talking about. I know you want to have an opinion as much as the next guy, but don't recommend this guy and lead himself into a rediculously frustrating situaion that he will ultimalty regret unless he wants to have a 255 hp car for the rest of his life. as soon as he wants to change injectors or crank the boost he will kick himself for not doing it in the first place.

venomrx7

your allergic to bullshit too?