2nd Generation Specific 1986-1992 Discussion

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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 03:18 AM
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ok so i want your guys opinion on whats a better series 7 s4 or s5 pros and cons to each please this is going to play a factor in what im going to get
Old Feb 8, 2009 | 12:49 PM
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just get the nicerest car you can find....
Old Feb 8, 2009 | 01:51 PM
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S5 - newer, updated electronics, updated engine. Hard to find a lsd in a n/a, and the viscous ones in the turbo(and n/a if you can find it) suck

s4 - better LSD, more common on n/a models. Doesnt have automatic seatbelts





Ive had 2 s4's and half a dozen S5's, and Ive always liked the s5's better.
Old Feb 8, 2009 | 02:21 PM
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so your saying the ones in the turbo suck as well? for s5
Old Feb 8, 2009 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by RicerJ' post='916277' date='Feb 8 2009, 03:21 PM
so your saying the ones in the turbo suck as well? for s5




Yes, all S5 LSD's were viscous. Viscous LSD's require a a change in wheel speed before they start to lock up. Accelerating out of a corner, the diff feels almost like a rubber band being wound up as it starts to lock up. The clutch type in the S4 feels more predictable and consistent.
Old Feb 8, 2009 | 03:59 PM
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im going to see if i could find a t2 s5 otherwise ill have to do a swap since im going for something very new for me (rwd/rotary/turbo?)
Old Feb 8, 2009 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by mazdaspeed7' post='916278' date='Feb 8 2009, 01:20 PM
Yes, all S5 LSD's were viscous. Viscous LSD's require a a change in wheel speed before they start to lock up. Accelerating out of a corner, the diff feels almost like a rubber band being wound up as it starts to lock up. The clutch type in the S4 feels more predictable and consistent.


Couldn't you just change to a more viscous clutch fluid? It seems like it would solve your problems since it would take less time to "wind up". That said, a clutch could still be more predictable due to the mechanical rather than fluid nature of it. Haven't been able to find it anywhere, but how many clutch plates are there in the S4 LSD?
Old Feb 8, 2009 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Nateb123' post='916291' date='Feb 8 2009, 06:02 PM
Couldn't you just change to a more viscous clutch fluid? It seems like it would solve your problems since it would take less time to "wind up". That said, a clutch could still be more predictable due to the mechanical rather than fluid nature of it. Haven't been able to find it anywhere, but how many clutch plates are there in the S4 LSD?




The LSD unit is permanently sealed. There is no way to change the viscous fluid, or even rebuild the diff if it becomes damaged.
Old Feb 8, 2009 | 05:58 PM
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S5 looks a little nicer, Id pick up a clean S5 if i was looking for something like a regular driver or a mild build.
Old Feb 8, 2009 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by mazdaspeed7' post='916295' date='Feb 8 2009, 03:07 PM
The LSD unit is permanently sealed. There is no way to change the viscous fluid, or even rebuild the diff if it becomes damaged.


Ouch, that sucks. Is that the case for the S4 pieces as well? Seems silly since clutch LSDs wear out fairly quickly.

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