there are 2 things that will kill your motor racing.

1. overheating it. you wanna keep the water temps and oil temps in a safe range



2. detonation. basically this is caused by either running a lot of timing, or running lean or having intake temps too hot, or a combonation of the 3. in order to have a saftey margin the factory runs it rich, and with safe timing, they give up some power this way though. the camel is willing to run with no safety margin, leaner = more power, but it also makes detonation occur easier. same stoy with timing, more = more power, but detonation will happen sooner.

the camel is hope to find that line where the engine lives, and he makes max power, but hes also expecting to loose a couple engines finding that line. he is building a race car after all

I've seen a friend run mid 13s with a 86 Base, converted to S5 engine, tranny, hubs, rear end, rear subframe and moving the stock intercooler to front mount with ABS piping. SAFC, FCD, FD pump and that's it.



He used no name Canadian Tire (Autozone) brand name tires at 20 psi.



You don't need a hybrid to pull it off.

I was running 13's with only:



thunderfabrications 3'' dp/mp

walbro

MBC set to 10 pounds

fcd



At 11 pounds my a/f numbers with just the walbro were in the mid 11's. Mid 13's need bolt on's and decent driving, not a stand alone and a to4e https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif

Well the difference is reliable or not....

i think its realiable. The comment of the turbo puking out is 1/2 correct.



Any original turbo is atleast 13 years old. That is quite old for a part that has almost no tolerance.

i call camel mr overkill all the time.



dont let him hypnotize you or else youll watch your wallet slowly empty as he reccommends places and things to buy LMAO.



damn you for hijacking "my path".



but anyway when building a car i think its more fun to do things you're own way, thats why i dont set goals. I do what i want and what will work, whatever i reach i decide was my goal the whole time. I ENJOY building my car and repairing it, so i guess my real goal is to have fun while going fast?



kevin.

i set goals based upon the class i run in autox and soloI

my old T2 was fast. it had 150k miles on the motor and everything else. hell i dunno many people that do 13's on true stock size street tires. i was amazed as anyone else when i did it. i still miss that car

You will get a second chance soon!, i can't believe it was so fast.

I think the key to vosko's quick times were his awesome launches. I recall reading old threads with his t2 and he ran 13's but his trap wasn't all that impressive. Not to discredit vosko, it's apparent he can blow up anything https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...R#>/tongue.png



To be more related to the thread, if you can't get a 13 second et in a stock turbo FC you should have the car taken away from you. I hardly doubt 10-11 pounds on the stock turbo is stressing the car to unreliable points. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/BURNOUT.gif