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stticsthug69 03-11-2003 04:21 PM

i have a 1985 gsl se and i want to make it have 500bwhp how would i do that would i hafta to switch engines if so what would i switch it with ?

mrdiaz96 03-11-2003 04:25 PM

you can get 500 out of what ever engine you have. Streetport turbo would be nice. I'll get you the website where I am ordering mine from.

rx7machine 03-11-2003 04:43 PM

That sounds like a task..

Racer X 03-11-2003 04:44 PM

500hp is costly as a mofo.Anything past the 300hp(more than enough for a FB)mark is getting in to double digits..I want 400rwhp but I know that I'm prolly looking at around 6k-10k for that much even.Best of luck getting that.



Luis

Racer X 03-11-2003 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by mrdiaz96' date='Mar 11 2003, 02:25 PM
you can get 500 out of what ever engine you have. Streetport turbo would be nice. I'll get you the website where I am ordering mine from.

500hp with a street port and turbo isn't as easy as it sounds.You need a HUGE port job and just as big turbo to do it.Not to mention some damn good apexs so they don't blow on you.

Directfreak 03-11-2003 07:35 PM

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Smog Fighter 03-11-2003 09:33 PM

Is that 500bhp or 500 whp? those are two completely different levels of output.



Here's a couple of trick questions:



1) what's better 500hp@4000 or 600hp@8000rpm?

2) what is the torque ftlbs for each?



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Raul

setzep 03-11-2003 09:43 PM

1. 600hp

2. 656.5 lb'tq & 393.9lb'tq

vosko 03-11-2003 09:52 PM

my new goal is 500rwhp on pump gas... it can be done https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

setzep 03-11-2003 09:54 PM

bah... what a pipe dream. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

rx7machine 03-11-2003 10:01 PM


Originally Posted by vosko' date='Mar 11 2003, 10:52 PM
my new goal is 500rwhp on pump gas... it can be done https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/ohmy.png that would be bad. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

vosko 03-11-2003 10:03 PM

460rwhp untuned... umm up the boost to 17psi and have it tuned yeah i think i can do it https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

Smog Fighter 03-11-2003 10:04 PM

500hp@4000 rpm will pull harder that 600@8000 rpm

j9fd3s 03-11-2003 10:09 PM


Originally Posted by vosko' date='Mar 11 2003, 07:52 PM
my new goal is 500rwhp on pump gas... it can be done https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

you've got a strong pimp hand, thats why



mike

rx7machine 03-11-2003 10:13 PM


Originally Posted by vosko' date='Mar 11 2003, 11:03 PM
460rwhp untuned... umm up the boost to 17psi and have it tuned yeah i think i can do it https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

Yea, you're right. It can defiantely be done.. Tune her well. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif

stticsthug69 03-11-2003 11:40 PM

so if i get a big ass street port and would a g reddy t78 work and maybe a haltech e6s for fuel management get me there ive seen a car exactly like mine with those mods but a hell of a lot of tuning run 10.1 so i dont know

Racer X 03-12-2003 12:34 AM


Originally Posted by vosko' date='Mar 11 2003, 08:03 PM
460rwhp untuned... umm up the boost to 17psi and have it tuned yeah i think i can do it https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

I'll be right behind you with the T2 swap collecting the parts that fly off your car as they break.I'll have some Vosko diff bits as paper wieghts. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

setzep 03-12-2003 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by Smog Fighter' date='Mar 11 2003, 10:04 PM
500hp@4000 rpm will pull harder that 600@8000 rpm

You said what is better, not what will pull harder.

600hp is "better" than 500hp even if it is at 8k. And when I say better I mean better for a race car, obviously not for a street car.

drifter 03-12-2003 08:59 PM

Thats really what the question should be though isn't it...

Is it a drag car or a street car?

cos over ~300HP on a street car is just stupid IMO. Its unnecessary and dangerous. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/cool.png

Smog Fighter 03-12-2003 11:30 PM

Viper, F50, Z06 Corvette, Murcielago, Esprit, Carrera4, Lightning, and a few others.

All 350+HP. All street vehicles. None stupid.



But what can I do with a tired 12A?? THAT'S the Question...

I need to do a couple of dyno pulls before I start the mayhem. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/evildeal.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/devil.gif

rx7machine 03-12-2003 11:37 PM


Thats really what the question should be though isn't it...

Is it a drag car or a street car?

cos over ~300HP on a street car is just stupid IMO. Its unnecessary and dangerous.
Yea, I hope 300hp+ isn't stupid.. Cause I plan on having a little more than 300hp in my FD, and it will be streetable. Now, in a 1st gen., that'd be pretty cool.

Racer X 03-13-2003 01:11 AM


Originally Posted by rx7machine' date='Mar 12 2003, 09:37 PM

Thats really what the question should be though isn't it...

Is it a drag car or a street car?

cos over ~300HP on a street car is just stupid IMO. Its unnecessary and dangerous.
Yea, I hope 300hp+ isn't stupid.. Cause I plan on having a little more than 300hp in my FD, and it will be streetable. Now, in a 1st gen., that'd be pretty cool.

300hp in a light wieght FB car.That would stomp at the track.Who would suspect the little first gen?When I get there I'll be posting times.https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png And I WILL get there.Not this year but over next winter I'll hope to get there.We'll see what my bank account holds when the time comes.Hopefully a TO4 finds its way into my engine bay next winter.https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png Might be stuck paying off the paint on it if I get the CP racing widebody.Still deciding between that and the Erebuni Kit like Viperx7 has on his. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png My car should be https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bling.gif by fall.After I get wheels and stuff for it. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif

stticsthug69 03-13-2003 01:26 AM

i want to get that wide body kit also and paint it black then get 16 or 17 by 10 white rims for it i want the engine to have at least 350 rwhp though and still be streetable

Racer X 03-13-2003 02:03 AM

Thats similar to what I'll run.Still debating on the CP widebody or just get the mazdatrix/erebuni kit.My project car already has SE brakes on it.If I don't go widebody I know where I can get some nice 17's at a good cost.

stticsthug69 03-13-2003 02:18 AM

nice i havent seen the erebuni kit is it nice ?

Racer X 03-13-2003 02:37 AM


Originally Posted by stticsthug69' date='Mar 13 2003, 12:18 AM
nice i havent seen the erebuni kit is it nice ?

Check Page 4 of the FB picture thread.I posted Viperx7's pics in it.He has the Mazdatrix/Erebuni kit on his car.Looks killer.Thats why it makes for such a tough call.The CP kit is nice on the black car they just added to the picture page.Yet Viper's looks good too.The erebuni site needs a good pic of thier kit on it.Thier pics do that kit no justice.The ones posted of vipers car does the kit good tho.



Luis

drifter 03-13-2003 07:38 PM

BTW I was referring to over ~300HP in an FB. Don't get me wrong, I love lots of HP, I just think that in a FB, anything in the 500HP range for street is crazy. Track, drags, different story. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

rx7machine 03-14-2003 01:45 AM


Originally Posted by drifter' date='Mar 13 2003, 08:38 PM
BTW I was referring to over ~300HP in an FB. Don't get me wrong, I love lots of HP, I just think that in a FB, anything in the 500HP range for street is crazy. Track, drags, different story. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

My mistake. Yea, 500hp in an FB would be nuts trying to control on the streets... how much does a FB weigh anyways?

rx7machine 03-14-2003 01:50 AM


Originally Posted by Racer X' date='Mar 13 2003, 03:37 AM
Check Page 4 of the FB picture thread.I posted Viperx7's pics in it.He has the Mazdatrix/Erebuni kit on his car.Looks killer.Thats why it makes for such a tough call.The CP kit is nice on the black car they just added to the picture page.Yet Viper's looks good too.The erebuni site needs a good pic of thier kit on it.Thier pics do that kit no justice.The ones posted of vipers car does the kit good tho.



Luis

I like that black one. So, in that case.. go with the CP kit.

Joe Flo 03-14-2003 01:55 AM


Viper, F50, Z06 Corvette, Murcielago, Esprit, Carrera4, Lightning, and a few others.

All 350+HP. All street vehicles. None stupid.


Ignorance is starting to show a little bit. Just look at the list you just made. Why would you even list a truck? As for the others. How many of them do you see on the road? most of them weigh more then my house. I had a rx7 that broke the 300hp mark. Flipped it 2 and a half times. I can honestly say if it is just for the street then it is way too much power. If it is for the track then by all means go for it!

Racer X 03-14-2003 03:05 AM


Originally Posted by rx7machine' date='Mar 13 2003, 11:45 PM
My mistake. Yea, 500hp in an FB would be nuts trying to control on the streets... how much does a FB weigh anyways?

Between 2300-2500lbs. depends on the model you have.

stticsthug69 03-14-2003 02:21 PM

my 85 gsl weighs 1700lbs at least thats what it said on the sticker just inside the drivers door that gives the stats on the car

rx7machine 03-14-2003 02:44 PM


my 85 gsl weighs 1700lbs at least thats what it said on the sticker just inside the drivers door that gives the stats on the car
Humm.. idk, that would be a jump from 2300-2500lbs. to 1700lbs.

stticsthug69 03-14-2003 04:34 PM

i konw thats what i thought so i went out to double check and sure enough it said 1700lbs on it so idk i was confused but maybe it was kg so it might have been my mistake

Racer X 03-15-2003 12:52 PM

They wiegh from 2350-2640lbs. Check here if you want all the wankel Vehicles specs.Rotary Vehicle Specs!!! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683473.gif

rx7machine 03-15-2003 01:03 PM

I remember seeing that site before. Good info.

Racer X 03-15-2003 01:44 PM

Yup.Its very usefull.I'm glad I bookmarked it

Smog Fighter 03-16-2003 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Flo' date='Mar 13 2003, 11:55 PM

Viper, F50, Z06 Corvette, Murcielago, Esprit, Carrera4, Lightning, and a few others.

All 350+HP. All street vehicles. None stupid.


Ignorance is starting to show a little bit. Just look at the list you just made. Why would you even list a truck? As for the others. How many of them do you see on the road? most of them weigh more then my house. I had a rx7 that broke the 300hp mark. Flipped it 2 and a half times. I can honestly say if it is just for the street then it is way too much power. If it is for the track then by all means go for it!

to point out "Ignorance",



You didn't read either the remark before mine or the rest of my remark.



As far as seeing them on a daily basis, I "see" two Lightnings an '02 and an '03

on a daily basis. I see at least one Z06 a month. The Lambo, Ferrari, Lotus, Dodge,

and Porsche I see on a regular basis (three to four months) are owned by customers

of mine.



I will restate my opinion on what really matters to me.



But what can I do with a tired 12A?? THAT'S the Question...

I need to do a couple of dyno pulls before I start the mayhem.

Racer X 03-16-2003 09:23 PM

Raul



You could give it a rebuild then give it a blow-thru setup.That would move nicely.



Luis

Smog Fighter 03-16-2003 09:47 PM

Yeah, and my wife keeps telling me to blow her too. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif



I love this guy, I can't keep from smiling at him!! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif


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