Would There Be Any Interest In This Manifold?
#21
Originally Posted by setzep' date='Sep 20 2003, 07:34 AM
[quote name='mazdadrifter' date='Sep 20 2003, 02:24 AM'] How come you decided not to use stainless?? I like that you used equal runners for it.
I haven't heard the best things about mild steel, but I guess the wall thickness helps it retain it's structure?
I haven't heard the best things about mild steel, but I guess the wall thickness helps it retain it's structure?
Nice job on the manifold, you are obviously a skilled TIG welder. [/quote]
Yes, it is very thick. The only downside to using mild steel is that it will rust. But so does your turbine housing, so it really isn't that big of a deal.
That is just a cosmetic issue. The welds won't rust. hehe Those are 308 stainless.
#22
Originally Posted by setzep' date='Sep 20 2003, 07:37 AM
[quote name='matt_sb2000' date='Sep 19 2003, 09:46 PM'] I try to. And thanks for the compliment.
Does anyone see any flaws in the design? Like should I make 2 runners for the w/g?
Any input is appreciated.
Does anyone see any flaws in the design? Like should I make 2 runners for the w/g?
Any input is appreciated.
The wastegate flange can be changed to something else. Make a suggestion as to what you would like to see on there. Racegate?
Kind of ot but, you said that the turbine housing is small. Will the car be nice and responsive? Or is it going to choke it?
#23
Originally Posted by vosko' date='Sep 20 2003, 07:46 AM
its a nice manifold but for $300 you can get a HKS cast manifold... i think. just for reference
Originally Posted by srmotorsports.com
Custom stainless exhaust manifolds
Call for custom applications available.
From $950
Call for custom applications available.
From $950
http://www.srmotorsports.com/srtrbos.html
Just an example.
#24
Originally Posted by matt_sb2000' date='Sep 20 2003, 11:24 AM
[quote name='setzep' date='Sep 20 2003, 07:37 AM'] [quote name='matt_sb2000' date='Sep 19 2003, 09:46 PM'] I try to. And thanks for the compliment.
Does anyone see any flaws in the design? Like should I make 2 runners for the w/g?
Any input is appreciated.
Does anyone see any flaws in the design? Like should I make 2 runners for the w/g?
Any input is appreciated.
The wastegate flange can be changed to something else. Make a suggestion as to what you would like to see on there. Racegate?
Kind of ot but, you said that the turbine housing is small. Will the car be nice and responsive? Or is it going to choke it? [/quote]
I'm just saying the size may be a bit small. Most people run at least a 40mm. Of course each different manifold design can compliment a smaller or larger WG though. I have no experience with the turbonetics wastegates but have herd some people complain about them. I've never herd a complaint about Tial products, thats why I went with one.
What a/r and trim is that housing/turbine wheel? I doubt it will "choke" it but I'm sure if there were a larger turbine housing on it the .7 front could be taken full advantage of. It just looks a little mismatched is all (turbine a/r to compressor a/r). The rotary likes a big fat turbine housing Who knows you may find that you'll have to go with a .6 on the front because it might hit the strut tower once it's in the car.
#25
Originally Posted by matt_sb2000' date='Sep 20 2003, 11:27 AM
[quote name='srmotorsports.com']Custom stainless exhaust manifolds
Call for custom applications available.
From $950
Call for custom applications available.
From $950
http://www.srmotorsports.com/srtrbos.html
Just an example. [/quote]
You can't beat that for 300-450. It takes time to make these. If I were to make custom manifolds I would charge at least 450 for a divided tubular manifold, maybe a bit cheeper for a simple one. I would say you are offering a good deal
#26
Originally Posted by setzep' date='Sep 20 2003, 08:54 AM
[quote name='matt_sb2000' date='Sep 20 2003, 11:24 AM'] [quote name='setzep' date='Sep 20 2003, 07:37 AM'] [quote name='matt_sb2000' date='Sep 19 2003, 09:46 PM'] I try to. And thanks for the compliment.
Does anyone see any flaws in the design? Like should I make 2 runners for the w/g?
Any input is appreciated.
Does anyone see any flaws in the design? Like should I make 2 runners for the w/g?
Any input is appreciated.
The wastegate flange can be changed to something else. Make a suggestion as to what you would like to see on there. Racegate?
Kind of ot but, you said that the turbine housing is small. Will the car be nice and responsive? Or is it going to choke it? [/quote]
I'm just saying the size may be a bit small. Most people run at least a 40mm. Of course each different manifold design can compliment a smaller or larger WG though. I have no experience with the turbonetics wastegates but have herd some people complain about them. I've never herd a complaint about Tial products, thats why I went with one.
What a/r and trim is that housing/turbine wheel? I doubt it will "choke" it but I'm sure if there were a larger turbine housing on it the .7 front could be taken full advantage of. It just looks a little mismatched is all (turbine a/r to compressor a/r). The rotary likes a big fat turbine housing Who knows you may find that you'll have to go with a .6 on the front because it might hit the strut tower once it's in the car. [/quote]
I see what you are saying. Alot of people talk **** about the deltagate... I have installed at least 20 of them, and I have never had a problem with boost creep.
The new evolution wastegate from turbonetics looks promising. The one that I can get right now is what's in the pictures. The other version of it is going to be v band clamps. hehe No more thought about how the wg flange is positioned.
I don't know the specs of that turbo. We bought it from a friend. They had it on a rotary car. The motor let go after 2 passes...
I'll borrow a larger turbine housing and change it out on the dyno. We'll see what differences there are that way.
#27
Originally Posted by matt_sb2000' date='Sep 20 2003, 12:10 PM
[quote name='setzep' date='Sep 20 2003, 08:54 AM'] [quote name='matt_sb2000' date='Sep 20 2003, 11:24 AM'] [quote name='setzep' date='Sep 20 2003, 07:37 AM'] [quote name='matt_sb2000' date='Sep 19 2003, 09:46 PM'] I try to. And thanks for the compliment.
Does anyone see any flaws in the design? Like should I make 2 runners for the w/g?
Any input is appreciated.
Does anyone see any flaws in the design? Like should I make 2 runners for the w/g?
Any input is appreciated.
The wastegate flange can be changed to something else. Make a suggestion as to what you would like to see on there. Racegate?
Kind of ot but, you said that the turbine housing is small. Will the car be nice and responsive? Or is it going to choke it? [/quote]
I'm just saying the size may be a bit small. Most people run at least a 40mm. Of course each different manifold design can compliment a smaller or larger WG though. I have no experience with the turbonetics wastegates but have herd some people complain about them. I've never herd a complaint about Tial products, thats why I went with one.
What a/r and trim is that housing/turbine wheel? I doubt it will "choke" it but I'm sure if there were a larger turbine housing on it the .7 front could be taken full advantage of. It just looks a little mismatched is all (turbine a/r to compressor a/r). The rotary likes a big fat turbine housing Who knows you may find that you'll have to go with a .6 on the front because it might hit the strut tower once it's in the car. [/quote]
I see what you are saying. Alot of people talk **** about the deltagate... I have installed at least 20 of them, and I have never had a problem with boost creep.
The new evolution wastegate from turbonetics looks promising. The one that I can get right now is what's in the pictures. The other version of it is going to be v band clamps. hehe No more thought about how the wg flange is positioned.
I don't know the specs of that turbo. We bought it from a friend. They had it on a rotary car. The motor let go after 2 passes...
I'll borrow a larger turbine housing and change it out on the dyno. We'll see what differences there are that way. [/quote]
I think it's just the heat and airflow the rotary puts out that doesn't make those wastegates very compatable. I think it may be a different story with 4cyl piston engines and WG choice.
Thats once thing I'd like to have on my next WG, V-band. But I'm not sure I'll ever need another WG now that I have a tial
If you put a larger turbine housing on at the dyno watch the AFR. I'm sure it will rise as wel as the HP numbers. Get ready to add fuel.
#28
Originally Posted by setzep' date='Sep 20 2003, 09:22 AM
[quote name='matt_sb2000' date='Sep 20 2003, 12:10 PM'] [quote name='setzep' date='Sep 20 2003, 08:54 AM'] [quote name='matt_sb2000' date='Sep 20 2003, 11:24 AM'] [quote name='setzep' date='Sep 20 2003, 07:37 AM'] [quote name='matt_sb2000' date='Sep 19 2003, 09:46 PM'] I try to. And thanks for the compliment.
Does anyone see any flaws in the design? Like should I make 2 runners for the w/g?
Any input is appreciated.
Does anyone see any flaws in the design? Like should I make 2 runners for the w/g?
Any input is appreciated.
The wastegate flange can be changed to something else. Make a suggestion as to what you would like to see on there. Racegate?
Kind of ot but, you said that the turbine housing is small. Will the car be nice and responsive? Or is it going to choke it? [/quote]
I'm just saying the size may be a bit small. Most people run at least a 40mm. Of course each different manifold design can compliment a smaller or larger WG though. I have no experience with the turbonetics wastegates but have herd some people complain about them. I've never herd a complaint about Tial products, thats why I went with one.
What a/r and trim is that housing/turbine wheel? I doubt it will "choke" it but I'm sure if there were a larger turbine housing on it the .7 front could be taken full advantage of. It just looks a little mismatched is all (turbine a/r to compressor a/r). The rotary likes a big fat turbine housing Who knows you may find that you'll have to go with a .6 on the front because it might hit the strut tower once it's in the car. [/quote]
I see what you are saying. Alot of people talk **** about the deltagate... I have installed at least 20 of them, and I have never had a problem with boost creep.
The new evolution wastegate from turbonetics looks promising. The one that I can get right now is what's in the pictures. The other version of it is going to be v band clamps. hehe No more thought about how the wg flange is positioned.
I don't know the specs of that turbo. We bought it from a friend. They had it on a rotary car. The motor let go after 2 passes...
I'll borrow a larger turbine housing and change it out on the dyno. We'll see what differences there are that way. [/quote]
I think it's just the heat and airflow the rotary puts out that doesn't make those wastegates very compatable. I think it may be a different story with 4cyl piston engines and WG choice.
Thats once thing I'd like to have on my next WG, V-band. But I'm not sure I'll ever need another WG now that I have a tial
If you put a larger turbine housing on at the dyno watch the AFR. I'm sure it will rise as wel as the HP numbers. Get ready to add fuel. [/quote]
Well, as far as heat and flow are concerned with the rotary / deltagate. I cut a hole in my friends stock manifold, and welded an elbow and wastegate flange to it. It controls boost from 3psi to 12 psi just fine.
That has been on the car for about 6 months with no problems.
V band is the ****. I wish everything was v band.
And yeah, changing the turbine housing is going to lean it out. We have larger injectors, good fuel pump, and a afc. It should be fine for 10psi.
#29
Originally Posted by matt_sb2000' date='Sep 20 2003, 08:27 AM
[quote name='srmotorsports.com']Custom stainless exhaust manifolds
Call for custom applications available.
From $950
Call for custom applications available.
From $950
http://www.srmotorsports.com/srtrbos.html
Just an example. [/quote]
yes but stainless it'self is very expensive
I'm not sure about the steel you are using
#30
Originally Posted by mazdadrifter' date='Sep 20 2003, 09:53 AM
[quote name='matt_sb2000' date='Sep 20 2003, 08:27 AM'] [quote name='srmotorsports.com']Custom stainless exhaust manifolds
Call for custom applications available.
From $950
Call for custom applications available.
From $950
http://www.srmotorsports.com/srtrbos.html
Just an example. [/quote]
yes but stainless it'self is very expensive
I'm not sure about the steel you are using [/quote]
I can make it out of stainless for the same price.
Stainless is just bling factor. Mild steel is perfectly acceptable for applications like this.