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IGY 10-03-2003 10:07 PM

Run the 4x1680s at 42.5 psi or you will run out of pumps at about 22-23psi with the walbro's. I run 2x550 and 2x1680 2xwalbro at 62.5 psi static and have enough fuel pump to run about 23 psi. Lower fuel pressure and bigger injectors is the way to go because the pumps flow more at lower pressures. I tried the 4x1680 setup on my side ported FD and had problems because the power fc can't fire the inj at low enough duty for idle(fucked a motor because of fuel in oil contamination). With my secondary bridge I ran the 4x1680s and the idle and driveability was better than with the 850's. With 850's and 1680's with 42.5 psi static fuel pressure, I was hitting 92% at 20 psi on the bridge. These are all with a 67-1(flows very similarly to the T70 up until about 20psi).

1Revvin7 10-04-2003 12:16 PM

Thxs guys.

93 R1 10-04-2003 07:15 PM

Damn I think you read my mind 1revvin7. Thats almost the same damn turbo/motor setup I'm going with. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

93 R1 10-04-2003 07:17 PM

Hey IGY didn't you guys experiment with wiring a 3rd set of injectors in parallel with the secondaries and running the whole damn thing with the PFC?



Did it work out? I would think that thats the way to go since you could run 850 primaries...for the smooth idle and 4x1600's for secondaries and tertiaries. That way when that T70 buries the boost gauge you have no worries about fuel.

whiplash 10-04-2003 09:10 PM

9BASE3:



I can dig up some new photos... I need to post motor photos too. stay tuned.



thanks though! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

IGY 10-04-2003 11:49 PM


Originally Posted by 93 R1' date='Oct 5 2003, 09:17 AM
Hey IGY didn't you guys experiment with wiring a 3rd set of injectors in parallel with the secondaries and running the whole damn thing with the PFC?



Did it work out? I would think that thats the way to go since you could run 850 primaries...for the smooth idle and 4x1600's for secondaries and tertiaries. That way when that T70 buries the boost gauge you have no worries about fuel.

Actually yes, Dragon ran a six injector setup w/ 2x1680 2x550 and 2x720. It worked very well for him. If I was running 2x6an fuel lines instead of the single 8an I would have his setup on my car right now. It actually blocks off the secondary holes and you run 4 injectors in between the upper and lower intake manifold. He was hitting something like 75% at 25psi with the T70.

little rotor 10-05-2003 04:40 AM


Originally Posted by IGY' date='Oct 4 2003, 08:49 PM
Actually yes, Dragon ran a six injector setup w/ 2x1680 2x550 and 2x720. It worked very well for him. If I was running 2x6an fuel lines instead of the single 8an I would have his setup on my car right now. It actually blocks off the secondary holes and you run 4 injectors in between the upper and lower intake manifold. He was hitting something like 75% at 25psi with the T70.

Why move the secondaries from their original position? Do you have any pics of the setup?

jspecracer7 10-05-2003 05:21 AM


Originally Posted by little rotor' date='Oct 5 2003, 06:40 PM
Why move the secondaries from their original position? Do you have any pics of the setup?

simple. Because there's no point in running 3 fuel rails.

little rotor 10-05-2003 06:17 PM

Agreed. Is there any reason not to keep the factory secondary position, add two more injectors plumbed into the primary runners between them and make a new rail?

1Revvin7 10-05-2003 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by IGY' date='Oct 4 2003, 11:49 PM
[quote name='93 R1' date='Oct 5 2003, 09:17 AM'] Hey IGY didn't you guys experiment with wiring a 3rd set of injectors in parallel with the secondaries and running the whole damn thing with the PFC?



Did it work out? I would think that thats the way to go since you could run 850 primaries...for the smooth idle and 4x1600's for secondaries and tertiaries. That way when that T70 buries the boost gauge you have no worries about fuel.

Actually yes, Dragon ran a six injector setup w/ 2x1680 2x550 and 2x720. It worked very well for him. If I was running 2x6an fuel lines instead of the single 8an I would have his setup on my car right now. It actually blocks off the secondary holes and you run 4 injectors in between the upper and lower intake manifold. He was hitting something like 75% at 25psi with the T70. [/quote]

I like that idea, or maybe even just add a couple teritaries(sp?) injectors at the tb elbow? I forgot how many drivers my e6k will allow with already 4 high impediance injectors, but I could always add more inj drivers...


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