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Fd3BOOST 02-04-2005 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by teknics' date='Feb 4 2005, 01:07 AM
yea i definitely prefer a cast manifold especially when it comes to a big/heavy turbo. I know vosko had problems with his T78 breaking SS manis, and by holding mine i can definitely see why. the fucker is heavy, so unless you brace it up or put braces all over the SS manifold (defeating the whole "SS is pretty" thing) then cast is a lot better.



plus when adding things as important as a manifold who chooses something cause its "prettier"?



I'm going to run that HKS "log" manifold as well, but im going to try to use the RB flange to try an idea i have in my head to make the port line up better.



kevin.




Did I say I would take looks over functionality? I just said the other one looks like ass and it does. Believe me Kevin if my **** starts breaking I will remedy the problem even if it looks like ass. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...R#>/tongue.png

94touring 02-04-2005 01:44 PM

GMON- interesting writeup and description. I hope others can use what you've found.



I did some cleaning....

teknics 02-04-2005 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by Fd3BOOST' date='Feb 4 2005, 07:22 AM
Did I say I would take looks over functionality? I just said the other one looks like ass and it does. Believe me Kevin if my **** starts breaking I will remedy the problem even if it looks like ass. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...R#>/tongue.png




actually before a mod cleaned up the topic you said



"...i prefer SS because, for one its prettier..."



of course thats not verbatim but the word pretty was in there.



kevin.

ReZ 02-17-2005 08:58 AM

What is up with all this crap? Certified welder? LOL. I'd ebay that manifold and custom make your own. You will be by far more satisfied with your result. As far as keeping the item being welded up to temps, F-that! This **** isn't being shot out into space! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif



If your manifold cracks (Not break. If it breaks, like fall on the ground, you shouldn't jump your car off ramps. You have issues.) reweld the crack. It's that simple.



TIG, MIG, ARC, oxy-acetylene... They all get the job done. I prefer mig for steel items. It's quick, easy, and the welds come out fantastic.



Why the hell do people need shiny SS manifolds? It's really retarded... Yes. BLING. Big whoop!

GMON 02-17-2005 04:06 PM

My thoughts exactly! Again, it was just an FYI for other 7 owners.






Originally Posted by ReZ' date='Feb 17 2005, 06:58 AM
What is up with all this crap? Certified welder? LOL. I'd ebay that manifold and custom make your own. You will be by far more satisfied with your result. As far as keeping the item being welded up to temps, F-that! This **** isn't being shot out into space! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif



If your manifold cracks (Not break. If it breaks, like fall on the ground, you shouldn't jump your car off ramps. You have issues.) reweld the crack. It's that simple.



TIG, MIG, ARC, oxy-acetylene... They all get the job done. I prefer mig for steel items. It's quick, easy, and the welds come out fantastic.



Why the hell do people need shiny SS manifolds? It's really retarded... Yes. BLING. Big whoop!



cymfc3s 02-28-2005 08:50 PM

Im running the cast manifold, my biggest reasons for running it was because it was so simple and would never crack.

As far as HP potential, i read just recently that kabooski's T2 did 520rwhp using the cast HKS manifold. *shrugs*

teknics 02-28-2005 09:35 PM

yea, im still gonna run this manifold on my setup, but ill clean-up the ports a bit, not gonna go overboard and weld it back and make them match perfectly.



and yea i heard of kabooski hitting 520 with this and i think someone else was up there too, like 480 or something.



kevin.

1Revvin7 02-28-2005 10:17 PM


Originally Posted by cymfc3s' date='Feb 28 2005, 09:50 PM
Im running the cast manifold, my biggest reasons for running it was because it was so simple and would never crack.

As far as HP potential, i read just recently that kabooski's T2 did 520rwhp using the cast HKS manifold. *shrugs*




Within the next month or two, depending on when someone gets their car back up and running, I will have dyno #s on the Hks log style manifold vs my SS tubular manifold.

cymfc3s 02-28-2005 10:26 PM


Originally Posted by 1Revvin7' date='Feb 28 2005, 08:16 PM
Within the next month or two, depending on when someone gets their car back up and running, I will have dyno #s on the Hks log style manifold vs my SS tubular manifold.




If you can show a significant gain, ill drive up to phoenix, buy the manifold and you a coupla beers!! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

cymfc3s 02-28-2005 10:58 PM

as a side note, all this talk about turbos, manifolds and flow has got me itching to get my car on the dyno and see what she'll do.... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

j9fd3s 03-01-2005 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by cymfc3s' date='Feb 28 2005, 08:26 PM
If you can show a significant gain, ill drive up to phoenix, buy the manifold and you a coupla beers!! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png




and some chicken!

Rob x-7 03-01-2005 02:15 PM

I would love a side by side comparison with any manifold, no other changes.

teknics 03-01-2005 04:50 PM

yea im down for that, would love to see results.



kevin.

HIMNI RACING 03-08-2005 12:57 AM

Welding any type of cast iron is iffy. The main issue is that it cools too quick and makes for inferior penetration. It can be a hit and miss situation and this is why we read so much about guys popping off the flanges on their turbine housings. Take your time, keep a torch a blaze don't forget to remove all the "flash"

l8t apex 03-08-2005 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by vosko' date='Feb 4 2005, 12:46 AM
i'd take cast over a SS manifold anyday. i had TWO and both broke!!!! down with SS manifolds !!!! cast all the way



i agree the hks manifold could be better but so could anything! i'm pretty sure HKS has been making those manifolds for like 10 years now....


Ditto....


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