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Old 09-13-2003, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Dragon' date='Sep 13 2003, 09:14 AM
[quote name='ZeroBanger' date='Sep 13 2003, 08:45 AM'] [quote name='Dragon' date='Sep 11 2003, 08:22 PM'] [quote name='ZeroBanger' date='Sep 11 2003, 03:36 PM']

Water injection does NOT help when you are sitting there. My intake temps will skyrocket. The main point of water injection is to prevent detonation. My car is not going to detonate while just sitting there. So when I hit boost, the air is cooled before it gets into the engine. Thats all I'm saying. I said that 3 times already.

But the computer doesn't know that it is colder due to the intake temp sensor being massivly heat soaked. So the computer will alter the fuel and ignition to what the temp sensor is reading. [/quote]

YES thats right. And the water injection will STILL prevent detonation. So if your intake temps are colder than the computer thinks the worst that will happen is your car will run lean, the whole point of water injection is to keep you from detonating under lean conditions. [/quote]



the worst that will happen is your car will run lean



the whole point of water injection is to keep you from detonating under lean conditions.






You’re obviously not very smart are you...? Perhaps you should devote your time to learning what happens to a rotary engine when it runs lean and forget about water injection, you’re not even making enough power to necessitate it. O' and when your car runs lean the engine won't give a **** if you have water injection or not. You just proved you don't even understand the concept of what water injection is used for so I'm done with you; blow your car up doing what ever you want to do because that is probably the only way somebody like you will learn... [/quote]

If I can put you on my ignore list I will. Im not even reading your replies any more, you are obviously an idiot.
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Old 09-13-2003, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by G2G' date='Sep 13 2003, 03:41 PM
I understand that. But you said that sitting in traffic is why you went with wi. I don't understand why sitting in traffic would make you want to use wi. Now if you were driving under normal conditions and your temps went high I would understand. Just wondering why sitting in traffic made you want to get wi.



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its not when Im sitting in traffic...it more like after. It takes along time without WI to cool off. You dont feel heatsoak with WI when you accellerate.
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Originally Posted by ZeroBanger' date='Sep 13 2003, 09:01 PM
[quote name='Dragon' date='Sep 13 2003, 09:14 AM'] [quote name='ZeroBanger' date='Sep 13 2003, 08:45 AM'] [quote name='Dragon' date='Sep 11 2003, 08:22 PM'] [quote name='ZeroBanger' date='Sep 11 2003, 03:36 PM']

Water injection does NOT help when you are sitting there. My intake temps will skyrocket. The main point of water injection is to prevent detonation. My car is not going to detonate while just sitting there. So when I hit boost, the air is cooled before it gets into the engine. Thats all I'm saying. I said that 3 times already.

But the computer doesn't know that it is colder due to the intake temp sensor being massivly heat soaked. So the computer will alter the fuel and ignition to what the temp sensor is reading. [/quote]

YES thats right. And the water injection will STILL prevent detonation. So if your intake temps are colder than the computer thinks the worst that will happen is your car will run lean, the whole point of water injection is to keep you from detonating under lean conditions. [/quote]



the worst that will happen is your car will run lean



the whole point of water injection is to keep you from detonating under lean conditions.






You’re obviously not very smart are you...? Perhaps you should devote your time to learning what happens to a rotary engine when it runs lean and forget about water injection, you’re not even making enough power to necessitate it. O' and when your car runs lean the engine won't give a **** if you have water injection or not. You just proved you don't even understand the concept of what water injection is used for so I'm done with you; blow your car up doing what ever you want to do because that is probably the only way somebody like you will learn... [/quote]

If I can put you on my ignore list I will. Im not even reading your replies any more, you are obviously an idiot. [/quote]

LOL



I would listen to dragon over you any day. He has 100X the experance then you. Bow down man...



Oh and BTW, you sound super convincing with that "two cracked apex seals" in your sig.



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Old 09-14-2003, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ZeroBanger' date='Sep 13 2003, 05:01 PM
[quote name='Dragon' date='Sep 13 2003, 09:14 AM'] [quote name='ZeroBanger' date='Sep 13 2003, 08:45 AM'] [quote name='Dragon' date='Sep 11 2003, 08:22 PM'] [quote name='ZeroBanger' date='Sep 11 2003, 03:36 PM']

Water injection does NOT help when you are sitting there. My intake temps will skyrocket. The main point of water injection is to prevent detonation. My car is not going to detonate while just sitting there. So when I hit boost, the air is cooled before it gets into the engine. Thats all I'm saying. I said that 3 times already.

But the computer doesn't know that it is colder due to the intake temp sensor being massivly heat soaked. So the computer will alter the fuel and ignition to what the temp sensor is reading. [/quote]

YES thats right. And the water injection will STILL prevent detonation. So if your intake temps are colder than the computer thinks the worst that will happen is your car will run lean, the whole point of water injection is to keep you from detonating under lean conditions. [/quote]



the worst that will happen is your car will run lean



the whole point of water injection is to keep you from detonating under lean conditions.






You’re obviously not very smart are you...? Perhaps you should devote your time to learning what happens to a rotary engine when it runs lean and forget about water injection, you’re not even making enough power to necessitate it. O' and when your car runs lean the engine won't give a **** if you have water injection or not. You just proved you don't even understand the concept of what water injection is used for so I'm done with you; blow your car up doing what ever you want to do because that is probably the only way somebody like you will learn... [/quote]

If I can put you on my ignore list I will. Im not even reading your replies any more, you are obviously an idiot. [/quote]

I'm not the one who believes water replaces gas.
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Originally Posted by rfreeman27' date='Sep 3 2003, 01:04 PM
humm gtr core looks nice
i have one that is brand new. . . w/o the endtanks even welded on!!!! you should buy it from me so i can get my damn car running!!!! haha. the endtanks are cast aluminum and offset. . . they are nice, and the intercooler is nice. . .



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Old 09-15-2003, 12:21 PM
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That's all I wanted to know thank you.



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Originally Posted by ZeroBanger' date='Sep 13 2003, 08:01 PM
[quote name='Dragon' date='Sep 13 2003, 09:14 AM'] [quote name='ZeroBanger' date='Sep 13 2003, 08:45 AM'] [quote name='Dragon' date='Sep 11 2003, 08:22 PM'] [quote name='ZeroBanger' date='Sep 11 2003, 03:36 PM']

Water injection does NOT help when you are sitting there. My intake temps will skyrocket. The main point of water injection is to prevent detonation. My car is not going to detonate while just sitting there. So when I hit boost, the air is cooled before it gets into the engine. Thats all I'm saying. I said that 3 times already.

But the computer doesn't know that it is colder due to the intake temp sensor being massivly heat soaked. So the computer will alter the fuel and ignition to what the temp sensor is reading. [/quote]

YES thats right. And the water injection will STILL prevent detonation. So if your intake temps are colder than the computer thinks the worst that will happen is your car will run lean, the whole point of water injection is to keep you from detonating under lean conditions. [/quote]



the worst that will happen is your car will run lean



the whole point of water injection is to keep you from detonating under lean conditions.






You’re obviously not very smart are you...? Perhaps you should devote your time to learning what happens to a rotary engine when it runs lean and forget about water injection, you’re not even making enough power to necessitate it. O' and when your car runs lean the engine won't give a **** if you have water injection or not. You just proved you don't even understand the concept of what water injection is used for so I'm done with you; blow your car up doing what ever you want to do because that is probably the only way somebody like you will learn... [/quote]

If I can put you on my ignore list I will. Im not even reading your replies any more, you are obviously an idiot. [/quote]

This was completely unnecessary, watch your language.
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Originally Posted by Srce' date='Sep 15 2003, 10:24 AM
[quote name='ZeroBanger' date='Sep 13 2003, 08:01 PM'] [quote name='Dragon' date='Sep 13 2003, 09:14 AM'] [quote name='ZeroBanger' date='Sep 13 2003, 08:45 AM'] [quote name='Dragon' date='Sep 11 2003, 08:22 PM'] [quote name='ZeroBanger' date='Sep 11 2003, 03:36 PM']

Water injection does NOT help when you are sitting there. My intake temps will skyrocket. The main point of water injection is to prevent detonation. My car is not going to detonate while just sitting there. So when I hit boost, the air is cooled before it gets into the engine. Thats all I'm saying. I said that 3 times already.

But the computer doesn't know that it is colder due to the intake temp sensor being massivly heat soaked. So the computer will alter the fuel and ignition to what the temp sensor is reading. [/quote]

YES thats right. And the water injection will STILL prevent detonation. So if your intake temps are colder than the computer thinks the worst that will happen is your car will run lean, the whole point of water injection is to keep you from detonating under lean conditions. [/quote]



the worst that will happen is your car will run lean



the whole point of water injection is to keep you from detonating under lean conditions.






You’re obviously not very smart are you...? Perhaps you should devote your time to learning what happens to a rotary engine when it runs lean and forget about water injection, you’re not even making enough power to necessitate it. O' and when your car runs lean the engine won't give a **** if you have water injection or not. You just proved you don't even understand the concept of what water injection is used for so I'm done with you; blow your car up doing what ever you want to do because that is probably the only way somebody like you will learn... [/quote]

If I can put you on my ignore list I will. Im not even reading your replies any more, you are obviously an idiot. [/quote]

This was completely unnecessary, watch your language. [/quote]

I called him an idiot, he deserved it..and BTW I was watching my language I had something else in mind.



If I can put him on my ignore list I'd be more than happy to.
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ZeroBanger, why dont you give him the benifit of the dough at least, he has years of experience on you. Do you honestly think one of his reputation and experience is talking about somehting he doesnt know? honestly?
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Originally Posted by epion2985' date='Sep 15 2003, 04:57 PM
ZeroBanger, why dont you give him the benifit of the dough at least, he has years of experience on you. Do you honestly think one of his reputation and experience is talking about somehting he doesnt know? honestly?
Im very happy he has an opinion and he is entitled to it. I dont appreciate being called a kid and being belittled by him. I have done alot of research on water injection and I stand by what I said. My last car was tuned conservative and I still blew 2 apex seals on the dyno due to high intake temps, at only 12 psi. That is the main reason I have it.



He can have any opinion he wants, I want to be allowed to have mine.
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