THIS IS NOT A CHEAP EBAY UNIT I noticed a few guys in here and on teamfc3s thought at 1st glance this was a cheap ebay unit, I assure you this is not; the close up pictures speak for themselves.

Quick breakdown of why this unit won't crack:



304SS

.493" thick engine flange

.128"(3mm) thick tubing

Bracing at critical points

X-ray'd for crack detection

Heat rejection coating done on 100% of the inside and outside

craftsmanship is guarnteed



The units are only available coated.These coatings are not just for looks, they actually reject heat. We also are doing the inside of turbine housings, the turbine wheel itself and downpipes, inconjugation with the inside of the motors. After all heat and the energy released from expanding gases, is what spools turbines. Keeping heat in the exhaust stream, and not allowing it to soak into the surronding surfaces will spool the turbine faster. Final coated pictures are in a few pages later in this thread. These units are setup for HKS 40mm wastegates, but I can weld any unit on that you want. I

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ummm... whats the differences between this manifold and the ones sold on e bay, davinci, obx, ssautochrome? if this is better and have the same dimensions i'd be interested.

This unit fits, won't crack, or warp like the cheap ebay ones. There is no cutting, grinding, or port matching. I've never seen the Davinci unit, or a price on it.

lol the davinici kit looks exactly like that, and compared to the e bay ones, is exactly the same.



so as far as dimensions are these manifolds the same as the ones on e bay? im wondering because i want to replace my cheap ass manifold from davinci with something that will withstand the heat and power im looking for.



how much?

There are only so many ways to make an exhaust manifold, but I guarante you these are nothing like the cheap ebay units. I have never even seen one of those cheap ebay units outside of the internet. Anyhow, I will get back to post tommorrow with all the details on everything, pricing, dimensions and brighter bigger pictures to show the big difference in quality. These are definalty nothing like the ebay units, these were made from scratch.



What guage Steel are the Davinci units?



The inside heat rejection coating will keep the polished manifold looking like new without heat discoloration. These will withstand the heat and any power you can throw at them.

What about making the wastegate outlet a V-band type? Is this possible? Will it incure additional costs?

Also if someone wanted one in 321 SS how much will the difference be?

Man I have had those too....**** it called MVP ...dustin and got the FD HKS cast iron for 380-90? I forgot. I dont want to gamble that mutch weight and vibration on SS at the high rotary temps.However....1reevin7 has seen the problems out here so I doubt he's gonna sell something crappy. Well, who in their right mindwants that type of headache? A good product is always needed.

Looks really nice!



I am also wondering if it would be additional costs to have a v-band flange for the wastegate?



I dont know if a SS mani could support the weight of my 1.32 housing without extra bracing...

revvin, im sorry if i seem like im being skeptical of your manifold... i know you've been a long time member of this forum, and know that you're not out to rip anyone off... but after working with a couple of long time members, i learned not to trust anyone.



if the dimentions are the same as the ebay ones... which i can even measure up and take pictures for you..... i would def. be interested, because i dont trust the manifold that davinci (9base3) have sold me.



i have recently bought one from e bay for a fair price, where the welds were reinforced... very ugly, but looks functional... ill get the measurements from that.

In those shots it may be hard to tell, but our manifolds have bracing. If you look close the wastegate flange and turbine housing flange have bracing. A v-band flange is definatly doable, but ofcourse will cost more.



321 is spendy stuff and hard to get; we already looked into that.

No offense taken, I understand where you are coming from. This manifold was made because I haven't seen anything on the market that I would use on my own cars. Just wait til I get the close ups.



I think I'm going to have to throw together a group buy.

i'm in for that if you do it.



T.c.

Nice work!! Looks awesome. I want to drive up and see you guys one weekend.

Keep us informed if you do.

When did you guys start a business/company?

im willing to pay for shipping of martins manifold to revvins place so he can compare the 2 and give us some better feedback. if its ok with both parties.

Sounds good, if you get it together I will pm you the shipping info.

Interested to see the dyno sheet on the 800hp drag car that used the heat coating. Is this car yours?

id be in for a gb

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Ah...i do see that now. So those little braces would be enough to support the extra weight? For some reason I was thinking about like braces connected to something other than the manifold (sorry, im just thinking out loud).



Well, I definitely would have some interest if the pricing was good with the vband option.

doh...you must have posted just before i did...



Hmm...let me see what i can do

Are you making these manifolds or farming them out. If they are being farmed out or made by someone other than yourself please say so. It will make a big difference in getting any problems straight if there is a problem with these, not saying that there would be. Just a "what if" The reason I suspect that you are not making them yourself is the cars in the picture all have Arizone tags and you are in Minnesota last I heard. I just want to understand exactly who is making the manifolds and who is doing the welding, fabrictang, Xray test that you say will be performed etc?

That is one pretty, expensive manifold.



I would like to get the dimensions in the event that my home-made mani takes a dive. Since my car is an FB, the dimensions will help me figure out if it will all fit!

sold.

he moved/going to school in Arizona



Kooks welded a bracket for Jim's manifold to bolt up somewhere on the engine for support, dont know why no one else just doesnt weld a bracket to support the weight of the turbo?

That would explain the AZ tags. I still would like to know if he is doing the work in house.

Have you guys ran one of these manifolds on a car yet to test it out? I ask because sometimes bracing is the cause of a manifold cracking apart. When the tubing expands faster than the brace you'll get a crack where the brace is attached to the tubing.



BTW, you're a lucky SOB to work in a shop like that...

actually you can count me in on this group buy... i just have to make sure that the turbo stay's the same hight so i can kep the downpipe i have

So you mean to tell us that you've never even seen the ebay manifolds outside of the internet...but yours just so happens to look exactly like it. I mean exact to a T, to the OBX manifold. Those braces that "YOU" put on there are the exact same BS braces that the obx and ssautochrome mani has on it...or NO, those are your custom job braces? Come on man. There are only so many ways to make a manifold....are you kidding? Yours is identical...it even uses the same diamond shape ss inserts where the 2 wastegate runners meet and join into one runner. The only difference that I have noticed between the 2 is that it is completely flush between the flange and the runners...so either you took theirs, rewelded inside, then ground flush, or made your own...but anyone who believes that this creation came off the top of your head and isn't an exact copy smokes crack. I'm willing to bet that the measurements will come out to be exactly the same...are they not?

These were actually made a longtime before the obx came out. These are made in the shop, and yes I have never EVER seen an an internet manifold outside of a pair of Hks manifolds.



If someone has an OBX unit and wants to ship it to me for a picture comparison I'm more than happy to.

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