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9BASE3 05-20-2004 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by Fd3BOOST' date='May 19 2004, 06:43 PM
You can, to4r can make 430rwhp at 17psi. he just hasn't tunned it there yet. He did say that it was his first try. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png Also he is using a smaller a/r. Not the big 1.00

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Sinful7 05-20-2004 10:02 AM

What boost controller was giving you these problems?

Badog 05-20-2004 11:25 AM

It depends on what conservative timing is to you.



Map Watch versus actual: there are factors that retard the timing. Your logs should show real close to actual unless you're someplace really cold or hot.



FWIW...nothing:

Always run race gas when playing with timing on the dyno. It's cheap insurance.

Since you have a hundred or samples at the current boost and timing (you do, right?) then why not tweak timing up a "small" amount. Since we don't know where you are at now, take that with a grain of salt. The timing might make some more torque up high, and maybe more than leaning out the mixture. How and when you make the change are important. Let's assume you advance after torque peak too. I always liked a flat toque curve with a really early peak. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/boink.gif

BNA_ELLIS 05-20-2004 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by Badog' date='May 20 2004, 08:25 AM
It depends on what conservative timing is to you.



Map Watch versus actual: there are factors that retard the timing. Your logs should show real close to actual unless you're someplace really cold or hot.



FWIW...nothing:

Always run race gas when playing with timing on the dyno. It's cheap insurance.

Since you have a hundred or samples at the current boost and timing (you do, right?) then why not tweak timing up a "small" amount. Since we don't know where you are at now, take that with a grain of salt. The timing might make some more torque up high, and maybe more than leaning out the mixture. How and when you make the change are important. Let's assume you advance after torque peak too. I always liked a flat toque curve with a really early peak. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/boink.gif

mmmmmm conservative timing to me is like a flat 11 deg advance on p18 row.



I have a single turbo car here built and mapped by Rmagic with hks to4r 1.15 a/r

pfc. I will go on map watch tomorrow and see if that car is the same where map watch shows higher timing figures than the actual timing map.



I will take pics and post my ign map with comparison to a datalog of map watcher tomorrow also..





rgds

BNA_ELLIS 05-20-2004 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by Sinful7' date='May 20 2004, 07:02 AM
What boost controller was giving you these problems?

Sorry the boost controller is a hks evc I think version 4

Badog 05-20-2004 09:14 PM


Originally Posted by BNA_ELLIS' date='May 21 2004, 03:15 AM
mmmmmm conservative timing to me is like a flat 11 deg advance on p18 row.



I have a single turbo car here built and mapped by Rmagic with hks to4r 1.15 a/r

pfc. I will go on map watch tomorrow and see if that car is the same where map watch shows higher timing figures than the actual timing map.



I will take pics and post my ign map with comparison to a datalog of map watcher tomorrow also..





rgds

Log everything. Save the logs.

works2r 05-21-2004 02:34 AM

I'm running a similar setup, with a couple of exceptions in electronics..



I got 438RWHP@1.1 Bar... (i dont have the dyno sheet handy, but vosko's seen it)

so the power is there!!

BNA_ELLIS 05-21-2004 02:53 AM

Is that 438rwhp on a dyno jet ? As I am told they always read higher ??

Is that with 0.84 a/r housing also ?? I know there is more power available but

but I don't see my setup hiting 438rwhp I wish thoguh lol.

Ok I will log everything and will post later.

cheers guy's.

works2r 05-21-2004 12:42 PM

don't remember? i'll have to go look around for the graph and yes .84, the one it comes with.. i have a 1.15 Split but i don't know if i want to put it on yet

Wargasm 05-21-2004 11:12 PM

added you to http://www.catenet.net/dyno.php



Let me know via PM if any info is wrong... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png



Brian


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