Bosch Pumps
03-08-2005, 07:43 PM
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affected vehicles: anything with a bosch fuel pump
we regret to inform you that running a bosch pump may lead to the pump wearing out prematurely, and to a loss of fuel flow and pressure.
symptoms: taking car to dyno and not being able to tune past xx(low psi) due to running out of fuel, despite bosch pump and large injectors.
diagnosis: with the fuel return line pinched off the pump should be able to make more than 90psi.
correction: replace bosch pump
affected vehicles: anything with a bosch fuel pump
we regret to inform you that running a bosch pump may lead to the pump wearing out prematurely, and to a loss of fuel flow and pressure.
symptoms: taking car to dyno and not being able to tune past xx(low psi) due to running out of fuel, despite bosch pump and large injectors.
diagnosis: with the fuel return line pinched off the pump should be able to make more than 90psi.
correction: replace bosch pump
03-08-2005, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by j9fd3s' date='Mar 8 2005, 08:42 PM
tsb# 1234567
affected vehicles: anything with a bosch fuel pump
we regret to inform you that running a bosch pump may lead to the pump wearing out prematurely, and to a loss of fuel flow and pressure.
symptoms: taking car to dyno and not being able to tune past xx(low psi) due to running out of fuel, despite bosch pump and large injectors.
diagnosis: with the fuel return line pinched off the pump should be able to make more than 90psi.
correction: replace bosch pump
affected vehicles: anything with a bosch fuel pump
we regret to inform you that running a bosch pump may lead to the pump wearing out prematurely, and to a loss of fuel flow and pressure.
symptoms: taking car to dyno and not being able to tune past xx(low psi) due to running out of fuel, despite bosch pump and large injectors.
diagnosis: with the fuel return line pinched off the pump should be able to make more than 90psi.
correction: replace bosch pump
the 3 rotor was a little too thirsty eh?
03-08-2005, 11:55 PM
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What was the PN on your bosch pump? I had 3 bosch pumps on my car and didn't have any issues. I had 1 bosch 61 979 pump feeding a fuel catch can and 2x bosch 61 984 pumps feeding the engine. The 979 pump is rated at 165lph and the 984 pumps are rated at 228lph @ 73.5psi. Did you only have 1 pump on your car? Where did the above information come from?
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03-09-2005, 02:38 AM
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Here's a graph showing the flow rates between a stock 3rd gen fuel pump, walbro gs341 pump, and a bosch 220lph pump. The bosch pump outperforms most other pumps at higher pressure. There must have been something faulty with your buddy's pump.
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03-09-2005, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by sillbeer' date='Mar 9 2005, 12:38 AM
Here's a graph showing the flow rates between a stock 3rd gen fuel pump, walbro gs341 pump, and a bosch 220lph pump. The bosch pump outperforms most other pumps at higher pressure. There must have been something faulty with your buddy's pump.
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yes thats what i'm trying to tell you. the pumps wear out, check yours before you loose the motor.
03-09-2005, 06:55 PM
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Bosch makes oem fuel pumps for Prosche, Saab, Benz, and may other high end cars. Do you think they would put crap in those cars? Bosch specializes in fuel components.
They created the first fuel injection system in 1967. I don't think they would still be in business today if they sold crap.
Was your buddy running an inline fitler before the pump or just the oem filter after the pump? If not it may have gotten contaminated which will cause premature pump failure. Also if the pump didn't see enough fuel it may have overheated and failed. Fuel is used for lubrication and cooling of the pump.
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They created the first fuel injection system in 1967. I don't think they would still be in business today if they sold crap.
Was your buddy running an inline fitler before the pump or just the oem filter after the pump? If not it may have gotten contaminated which will cause premature pump failure. Also if the pump didn't see enough fuel it may have overheated and failed. Fuel is used for lubrication and cooling of the pump.
-Destin
03-09-2005, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by sillbeer' date='Mar 9 2005, 04:55 PM
Bosch makes oem fuel pumps for Prosche, Saab, Benz, and may other high end cars. Do you think they would put crap in those cars? Bosch specializes in fuel components.
They created the first fuel injection system in 1967. I don't think they would still be in business today if they sold crap.
Was your buddy running an inline fitler before the pump or just the oem filter after the pump? If not it may have gotten contaminated which will cause premature pump failure. Also if the pump didn't see enough fuel it may have overheated and failed. Fuel is used for lubrication and cooling of the pump.
-Destin
They created the first fuel injection system in 1967. I don't think they would still be in business today if they sold crap.
Was your buddy running an inline fitler before the pump or just the oem filter after the pump? If not it may have gotten contaminated which will cause premature pump failure. Also if the pump didn't see enough fuel it may have overheated and failed. Fuel is used for lubrication and cooling of the pump.
-Destin
have you ever owned a german car?
03-09-2005, 07:31 PM
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Me, no. I drove my dads Audi when I was younger and i've driven plenty of VW's. What relevance does that have to the product quality though? none. Do you have any proof that there crap or are you basing everything off one incident?
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03-09-2005, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by sillbeer' date='Mar 9 2005, 05:31 PM
Me, no. I drove my dads Audi when I was younger and i've driven plenty of VW's. What relevance does that have to the product quality though? none. Do you have any proof that there crap or are you basing everything off one incident?
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the #1 no start/stuck by the side of the road for a german car is the fuel pump, they do fail regularly.
however ive never seen a pump that wore out. we have one bad worn out pump, and the tuning shop had seen a few too. last time the car was there they tuned it to 14psi, this time they couldnt get it up to 10.....