im inquirin how they proved ms to be stronger than ss as theyve indicated..

oh my good god, ive got to go and change my underwear now

Aspec's kit (the one pictured) is SS. I never claimed anything about MS.

I am running two 45 degree fittings for the primary rail....the feed side is using a straight fitting and the return side is using a 120 degree fitting.



I am running two 90 degree fittings for the secondary rail.....the feed side is using a straight fitting and the return side is using a 90 degree fitting.



I ran into problems with my injector connectors for the primary fuel rail.....that is my largest hold up.

the reference wasnt for you badog..

it was in reference to rotaryman88s statement...

not sure why the change to ms was made from ss..

aside from what ive already stated...ss is also lighter..



unless the ms was coated throughout...meanin inside and out..

id gather its still susceptible to rust...



im assuming the cost difference was made here..

Ivan and others down there had problems with the SS cracking under high boost. So they tried MS out with the Ceramic coating and it held up alot better. That is about all I know....if Ivan posts on here, I am sure he will know tons more details. Sorry for my vague post.

This is an email I recieved from Ivan about this:



The mild steel ceramic coated pipes are a new project that we are doing as well, I have done one for my car and I prefer it to the Stainless one I had before, running at 25psi. It is way more reliable than the SS pipes that the other shops are offering because, we heat treat them and ceramic coat the pipes as well, we recently have had a SS pipe crack on the dyno, and Tim was there to witness it because he was doing the tuning, and he was the one that stressed the fact that the mild steel is better as the 3.8mm thickness will not crack

No disrespect but you are essentially selling our kit, We have no problem getting turbosmart stuff at any time you just need to know where to go. I can sell these gates at a pretty good price too. Tial gates are nice but no better, and I'm curious what makes you think yours is better, I can say I have installed and handled both kits since both were/are mine originally and are constantly improved upon with each and every one, and if your still selling old rpm made kits your kits need some improvement believe me, I've seen it first hand and I've seen alot more of it than anyone, most of the stuff that is improved upon you can't see please keep that in mind, as I can see many things that still need to be changed on what you sell as" YOUR" kit. I would even be willing to help you make those changes.These are made both in mild/coated and stainless depending on what the customer asks for. There will be continuious redesigns of this to constantly provide better products to the people out there. I'm not going to get into this whole A-spec RPM thing anymore, it's not worth it, the fact is this, the kits are by far the best most complete kits you will find for the money,period, they come from the original design/manufacturer who's had the most experience with them/ they are not rebadged,they are made right here in Chicago. They will be sold at a very competitive price. Please keep in mind this isn't meant to bash you or be a personal attack, I'm just speaking the facts backed by the experience of over 20+ kits even though it seems you are trying to better your position by attacking us.



Oh and I will not be responding to anymore such replies, only questions about the kits being made.



Thanks,Sean

Well since we are on the subject? What has been improved upon? I am curious since I bought an RPM kit from Ivan. Also, I see that HKS sellls a GT35/40 turbo kit.....is it more or less the same? I know it is not an FD kit, but it's still a GT35/40.



Thanks,

Scott

I had to spin the connectors towards the manifold side https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png