Why So Much Hate For The 8?
03-11-2005, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Black8' date='Mar 11 2005, 01:39 PM
Oh, I have faith......But the FD has some big shoes to fill.
I believe that no RX is "better" or "best"....just all unique and different in their own way.
I believe that no RX is "better" or "best"....just all unique and different in their own way.
04-10-2005, 11:46 AM
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i like the way that black 8 put it. to all those people who thought the rx8 was a "replacement" for the FD there all wrong the "8" was just a way of keeping the rotary spririt alive. my dad just got an fd a month ago w/ a blown up motor so its kinda gonna be a father son kinda thing. the 8 is a cool car nonetheless and is just designed to do different things than the fd. and props to mazda for keeping the rotary spirit alive.
04-12-2005, 03:36 AM
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As an FD owner who does seriously dislike the 8, I feel like I should point out a few things.
The main reson I don't like it, is because everything about it is a compromise. Now, these days, a compromise is important, like was stated before, the FD was a huge financial gamble that didn't pay off in the American market, but to me the 8 is just too indecisive about what it wants to be. The FD was pure. It was totally a driving machine with little utility, no room, it was a GT car for the road. The 8 isn't sure if it's a sports car, a family sedan, or what. Some people call that the best of both worlds. But, I'm an all or nothing kind of guy, if I need a four seater, I buy a car that comfotably seats four or five full size adults, if I want a sports car, I buy a car that is an unadulterated true sports car. To me, the limited utility isn't enough to offset the so-so performance.
Secondly, I can't stand the looks of the 8. That's just a personal preference thing, but I think it looks like a commitee of Fast and Furious watching 15 year olds designed it. It's got flares and silly taillights and that goofy triangle on the hood and bumper and seats and shifter. I just think it looks silly, and the radio controls are not at all attractive to me and the whole two-tone thing doesn't work for it as far as I'm concerned. But, like I said, that's just me, different strokes for different folks. I'm coming from the viewpoint that the FD is one of the best looking cars of all time, and everything I like about the FD is sorely missing on the 8. I see the FD as clean, classy, understated, and timeless. The 8 is very trendy, styling wise, and already looks dated to me.
Finally, I don't like most 8 owners attitudes. One guy actually asked me if I got the FD because I couldn't afford the 8. He assumed that the only reason someone would buy a 12 year old car is because the new one costs to much, and he figured I was jealous of his car because it was worth more. I laughed. I asked what exactly I was supposed to be jealous of when my car is considerably faster for half the money. He was a bit of an idiot because he told me there was no way my "old" rotary was faster than his new hotness. So we put $50 on it. I went 11.5, he went 14.9, and he didn't say much after that. Unfortunately, most 8 owners I've run across have a similar mentality, their car is newer so it must be better. I can't stand people like that.
So that's why I don't like it. Obviously, those reasons apply to me, and I don't knock anyone for liking the 8. They just have different needs than I do. If you want a semi sporty car that can fit two adults and two kids and carry more than $40 in groceries, and if the looks work for you, then the 8 is a great car. Me, I have an '01 Audi S4 for when I need to drive people around, I have an '02 Lightning for moving beds or trees or towing the seven home after blowing the oil cooler (
), and I have the seven for that unadulterated visceral seat of the pants driving experience. And the best part is, they're all faster than any 8 I've seen around Vegas.
The main reson I don't like it, is because everything about it is a compromise. Now, these days, a compromise is important, like was stated before, the FD was a huge financial gamble that didn't pay off in the American market, but to me the 8 is just too indecisive about what it wants to be. The FD was pure. It was totally a driving machine with little utility, no room, it was a GT car for the road. The 8 isn't sure if it's a sports car, a family sedan, or what. Some people call that the best of both worlds. But, I'm an all or nothing kind of guy, if I need a four seater, I buy a car that comfotably seats four or five full size adults, if I want a sports car, I buy a car that is an unadulterated true sports car. To me, the limited utility isn't enough to offset the so-so performance.
Secondly, I can't stand the looks of the 8. That's just a personal preference thing, but I think it looks like a commitee of Fast and Furious watching 15 year olds designed it. It's got flares and silly taillights and that goofy triangle on the hood and bumper and seats and shifter. I just think it looks silly, and the radio controls are not at all attractive to me and the whole two-tone thing doesn't work for it as far as I'm concerned. But, like I said, that's just me, different strokes for different folks. I'm coming from the viewpoint that the FD is one of the best looking cars of all time, and everything I like about the FD is sorely missing on the 8. I see the FD as clean, classy, understated, and timeless. The 8 is very trendy, styling wise, and already looks dated to me.
Finally, I don't like most 8 owners attitudes. One guy actually asked me if I got the FD because I couldn't afford the 8. He assumed that the only reason someone would buy a 12 year old car is because the new one costs to much, and he figured I was jealous of his car because it was worth more. I laughed. I asked what exactly I was supposed to be jealous of when my car is considerably faster for half the money. He was a bit of an idiot because he told me there was no way my "old" rotary was faster than his new hotness. So we put $50 on it. I went 11.5, he went 14.9, and he didn't say much after that. Unfortunately, most 8 owners I've run across have a similar mentality, their car is newer so it must be better. I can't stand people like that.
So that's why I don't like it. Obviously, those reasons apply to me, and I don't knock anyone for liking the 8. They just have different needs than I do. If you want a semi sporty car that can fit two adults and two kids and carry more than $40 in groceries, and if the looks work for you, then the 8 is a great car. Me, I have an '01 Audi S4 for when I need to drive people around, I have an '02 Lightning for moving beds or trees or towing the seven home after blowing the oil cooler (
04-12-2005, 06:06 AM
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After selling my 7 to get an 8 I was pissed after driving it. The power was **** all! but it handles so mouch better out of the box than the 7 that it kept me some what happy. Now in the grand scheme of things you can make anything fast. I really like the styling and the backseats. It has already got a **** load of parts for a car only being less than 2 years old. The market will be strong on aftermarket parts and you can rest assure there will be some 8's ready to rock some rx-7's soon enough.
-Ryan
-Ryan
04-12-2005, 10:48 PM
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the problem isn't the rx8, it's the rotary is only availible in one car. what if someone likes the engine, but not the car? i wish it was the old days again, with the rx2,3,4 in various bodies, etc like the wagon judge ito was born in
04-13-2005, 07:07 AM
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[quote name='GarageBoy' date='Apr 12 2005, 07:48 PM']the problem isn't the rx8, it's the rotary is only availible in one car. what if someone likes the engine, but not the car? i wish it was the old days again, with the rx2,3,4 in various bodies, etc like the wagon judge ito was born in
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I'm with you on this one......I'd love a renesis in a nice family wagon.....
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I'm with you on this one......I'd love a renesis in a nice family wagon.....
