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Old Dec 16, 2002 | 08:55 PM
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Just as we were closing up the shop, I reassembled the front of the motor to check end-play... .1120 wtf????



I must have assembled incorrectly....



I'm using all new parts: both bearings, thrust washer, and thrust plate. I'm reusing the old 11-5011 plate (the big one in the middle that bolts down), and I'm reusing the old "V" spacer just to get a measurement. I assembled per Turrentine's excellent vid. The only thing that isn't clear is which way the chamfer on the thrust plate (rearmost) faces... Need to check the FSM for that.



Maybe the big plate in the middle didn't seat. I'll disassemble the front of the motor tomorrow and re-do.



Ideas and/or experiences appreciated...



Steve C.



D_mn I hope this isn't major... I'd hate to start over
Old Dec 16, 2002 | 09:56 PM
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the thrust plate chamfer goes toward the rear, or it "lines up" with the fillet on the e shaft. i dunno about the end play maybe you need a different spacer? i measure the endplay by feel so i'm not sure what the measurement is



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Old Dec 17, 2002 | 07:08 PM
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Did you lap the side plates?
Old Dec 17, 2002 | 08:18 PM
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You are sure the thrust washer is on the lip? What is your eccentric shaft "protrusion"?
Old Dec 17, 2002 | 10:36 PM
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Thanks for the input guys. Mea culpa, I assembled incorrectly.



I was in a hurry, and followed the picture in the Factory Parts Manual instead following my notes. The assembly order shown in the FPM is incorrect - it shows the bearing going on first -ack!-.



Fortunately nothing got bent. Tonight, I disassembled and reassembled Viola! .0025 endplay!



The oil pump surrendered quietly, and only the tiny little key for the drive

gear offered resistance.



Thanks for the input.



Steve C.

- almost done
Old Dec 17, 2002 | 11:04 PM
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i hate the oil pump key, i never remove it anymore i just take the whole pump off assembled



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Old Dec 19, 2002 | 05:17 AM
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Glad to read your ok steve. .0025 is lovely end play..
Old Dec 22, 2002 | 09:59 AM
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Front cover is on. Oil pan is on.



Its time for a couple "proud papa" pics...

Here's the block, on the traditional 5 gal. "stacking bucket". Very good to

work on btw. Thanks to David88vert for that tip.





Here it is on the stand at the shop. No front cover yet... I LOST my

oil pump drive gear nut (probably find it at the bottom of the

washing machine tonight) and had to make a special trip to Ace Hardware

- ugh!.



Shameless plug --> Shop is The Dynolab, Inc. Aside from dyno'ing lots of very cool cars, they do metal fab, powder

coating, and general tinkering... <--/shameless plug. Note, all parts are bagged in resealable baggies - marked with original location - very helpful, very clean.







Art (shop owner) performs the very technical Rockwell hardness test ;^)





More later.

Steve C.
Old Dec 22, 2002 | 05:51 PM
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Steve nice pics. But what the hell is the shop owner doing to the engine???
Old Dec 22, 2002 | 10:06 PM
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hehehe, it cool... He's just messing with me. He saw me clicking picks, and picked up the

biggest, tool he could find and stepped into the picture with a very serious look

on his face. We all roared, laughing. Just above and to the right of the engine,

there is a series of huge adjustable wrenches. He picked up one of those and started

to pose. Luckily I ran out of film...



Steve C.



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