Clr Motorsporst Built My Engine!
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And what sort of ECU are you using? Is it a 32 bit? Really high resolution map? I'm stuck with a PFC, 16 bit, 400rpm resolution. There's "error" built in to the PFC if you think about it in those terms. If I ran a Motec M800 or something crazy with 100rpm resolution, great, 2-piece for me. Again, I listen to the guy buiding my engine for my application. You really think I'm going to see a difference when making 450rwhp between the two seals?
How many times to you tear the engine down during the course of a race season? My goal is to NOT have to tear the engine down several times a year.
How many laps do you complete on a road course at 1000hp before the engine grenades? Ever start the car cold, drive three miles, fill the back up with groceries and then drive home? Does the a/c work?
Apples to oranges dude...completely different discipline. What car do you "crew" for out of curiosity? Must be a fast *** car!
Michel
[quote name='rfreeman27' date='Apr 13 2005, 12:33 PM']on the 1000ish HP drag race car i work on, moving from 3mm to 2mm seals improved HP and made the car just run better. If a 2mm seal can hold up at 50lbs (and yes that did happen, i saw the datalogs with my own eyes) I will run them over the 3mil. Basically on a high HP motor if it is going to blow up, having a 3mm seal in there is not going to stop it...
but whatever, im sure your motor will run great, ill keep my 2mms though
-bobby
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How many times to you tear the engine down during the course of a race season? My goal is to NOT have to tear the engine down several times a year.
How many laps do you complete on a road course at 1000hp before the engine grenades? Ever start the car cold, drive three miles, fill the back up with groceries and then drive home? Does the a/c work?
Apples to oranges dude...completely different discipline. What car do you "crew" for out of curiosity? Must be a fast *** car!
Michel
[quote name='rfreeman27' date='Apr 13 2005, 12:33 PM']on the 1000ish HP drag race car i work on, moving from 3mm to 2mm seals improved HP and made the car just run better. If a 2mm seal can hold up at 50lbs (and yes that did happen, i saw the datalogs with my own eyes) I will run them over the 3mil. Basically on a high HP motor if it is going to blow up, having a 3mm seal in there is not going to stop it...
but whatever, im sure your motor will run great, ill keep my 2mms though
-bobby
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[quote name='rx7tt95' date='Apr 14 2005, 11:14 AM']And what sort of ECU are you using? Is it a 32 bit? Really high resolution map? I'm stuck with a PFC, 16 bit, 400rpm resolution. There's "error" built in to the PFC if you think about it in those terms. If I ran a Motec M800 or something crazy with 100rpm resolution, great, 2-piece for me. Again, I listen to the guy buiding my engine for my application. You really think I'm going to see a difference when making 450rwhp between the two seals?
How many times to you tear the engine down during the course of a race season? My goal is to NOT have to tear the engine down several times a year.
How many laps do you complete on a road course at 1000hp before the engine grenades? Ever start the car cold, drive three miles, fill the back up with groceries and then drive home? Does the a/c work?
Apples to oranges dude...completely different discipline. What car do you "crew" for out of curiosity? Must be a fast *** car!
Michel
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Its a tecIII. No resolution issues. I dont think you are seeing my point, and prolly will not so I will just drop it.
I know IN MY CAR i will be making over 500 on pump and make much more then that on race gas. I know that with my 2mm seals it will start every time, and i can bring it to the store and back.
Actually, at MIR he made what, 5 or 6 passes at 30+lbs of boost and the compression is still in the 9's. The catch can was never emptied and only had about a half inch of blowby in there. That is putting more stress on the engine then you ever will street driving, and at 400-450hp is prolly more stress then a 10 min lapping session. I'm sold on the 2 peice 2mm seals. This isnt apples to oranges at all. Stress on the motor is stress on the motor. If thoes 2mm seals can hold up to the abuse demetrius puts them through in his car, you can be damned sure I will be using them in mine.
here is the car I work on. Im sure your motor is going to be awesome. I know from what i have seen that 2mm's are just fine. If he sees differently then whatever...
BTW, who the hell has AC in their FD anyways?
How many times to you tear the engine down during the course of a race season? My goal is to NOT have to tear the engine down several times a year.
How many laps do you complete on a road course at 1000hp before the engine grenades? Ever start the car cold, drive three miles, fill the back up with groceries and then drive home? Does the a/c work?
Apples to oranges dude...completely different discipline. What car do you "crew" for out of curiosity? Must be a fast *** car!
Michel
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Its a tecIII. No resolution issues. I dont think you are seeing my point, and prolly will not so I will just drop it.
I know IN MY CAR i will be making over 500 on pump and make much more then that on race gas. I know that with my 2mm seals it will start every time, and i can bring it to the store and back.
Actually, at MIR he made what, 5 or 6 passes at 30+lbs of boost and the compression is still in the 9's. The catch can was never emptied and only had about a half inch of blowby in there. That is putting more stress on the engine then you ever will street driving, and at 400-450hp is prolly more stress then a 10 min lapping session. I'm sold on the 2 peice 2mm seals. This isnt apples to oranges at all. Stress on the motor is stress on the motor. If thoes 2mm seals can hold up to the abuse demetrius puts them through in his car, you can be damned sure I will be using them in mine.
here is the car I work on. Im sure your motor is going to be awesome. I know from what i have seen that 2mm's are just fine. If he sees differently then whatever...
BTW, who the hell has AC in their FD anyways?
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LOL, hey, I live in South Florida! Subtropical Florida! I've done the no a/c thing (I'm doing it right now!) in August and it isn't pretty...Anyway, Bobby, I'll get back to you on your reply for the sake of discussion and not argument, LOL. Don't want it to be confrontational. CLR just sent a long reply which I need to digest a bit and I'll respond. Much of what you say is, I'm sure true, but it doesn't apply in my situation. Just remember this...the 787B used 3mm seals. But more on that later! Need to solve the tranny issues (thanks again, although it looks like it's the pressure plate snap ring) and finish my taxes.
Anyway, Dave! Yes, got the shroud. Doesn't fit. It's a little too "deep" front to back, actually right in front of the hood latch. It's nothing that cannot be fixed easily. Just haven't had time. Otherwise a great looking piece and you truly have "mad skills"
Michel
[quote name='rfreeman27' date='Apr 14 2005, 06:22 PM']Its a tecIII. No resolution issues. I dont think you are seeing my point, and prolly will not so I will just drop it.
I know IN MY CAR i will be making over 500 on pump and make much more then that on race gas. I know that with my 2mm seals it will start every time, and i can bring it to the store and back.
Actually, at MIR he made what, 5 or 6 passes at 30+lbs of boost and the compression is still in the 9's. The catch can was never emptied and only had about a half inch of blowby in there. That is putting more stress on the engine then you ever will street driving, and at 400-450hp is prolly more stress then a 10 min lapping session. I'm sold on the 2 peice 2mm seals. This isnt apples to oranges at all. Stress on the motor is stress on the motor. If thoes 2mm seals can hold up to the abuse demetrius puts them through in his car, you can be damned sure I will be using them in mine.
here is the car I work on. Im sure your motor is going to be awesome. I know from what i have seen that 2mm's are just fine. If he sees differently then whatever...
BTW, who the hell has AC in their FD anyways?
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Anyway, Dave! Yes, got the shroud. Doesn't fit. It's a little too "deep" front to back, actually right in front of the hood latch. It's nothing that cannot be fixed easily. Just haven't had time. Otherwise a great looking piece and you truly have "mad skills"
Michel
[quote name='rfreeman27' date='Apr 14 2005, 06:22 PM']Its a tecIII. No resolution issues. I dont think you are seeing my point, and prolly will not so I will just drop it.
I know IN MY CAR i will be making over 500 on pump and make much more then that on race gas. I know that with my 2mm seals it will start every time, and i can bring it to the store and back.
Actually, at MIR he made what, 5 or 6 passes at 30+lbs of boost and the compression is still in the 9's. The catch can was never emptied and only had about a half inch of blowby in there. That is putting more stress on the engine then you ever will street driving, and at 400-450hp is prolly more stress then a 10 min lapping session. I'm sold on the 2 peice 2mm seals. This isnt apples to oranges at all. Stress on the motor is stress on the motor. If thoes 2mm seals can hold up to the abuse demetrius puts them through in his car, you can be damned sure I will be using them in mine.
here is the car I work on. Im sure your motor is going to be awesome. I know from what i have seen that 2mm's are just fine. If he sees differently then whatever...
BTW, who the hell has AC in their FD anyways?
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[quote name='rx7tt95' date='Apr 15 2005, 11:11 AM']LOL, hey, I live in South Florida! Subtropical Florida! I've done the no a/c thing (I'm doing it right now!) in August and it isn't pretty...Anyway, Bobby, I'll get back to you on your reply for the sake of discussion and not argument, LOL. Don't want it to be confrontational. CLR just sent a long reply which I need to digest a bit and I'll respond. Much of what you say is, I'm sure true, but it doesn't apply in my situation. Just remember this...the 787B used 3mm seals. But more on that later! Need to solve the tranny issues (thanks again, although it looks like it's the pressure plate snap ring) and finish my taxes.
Anyway, Dave! Yes, got the shroud. Doesn't fit. It's a little too "deep" front to back, actually right in front of the hood latch. It's nothing that cannot be fixed easily. Just haven't had time. Otherwise a great looking piece and you truly have "mad skills"
Michel
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I actually left it a little long in case you needed to trim it. I have a stock bumper and I slip mine under that alluminum support thing that it has. I know you have a Fujita bumper and I hve to assume that the edge on your bumper just rolls over ( bad explination) I also was not sure which radiator you are using so I was not sure how far to bend the lip downward. It should not be to bad but if it is send it back with a descrpition of what to correct and I ceratainly will if you like. If you have to trim it use a hand held jig saw with a metal cutting blade ( more teeth than a wood blade) Make sure you clamp it to a bench or the saw can jump and you can loose a finger or something..
Other than that thanks for the compliment and I am glad you liked it.
Anyway, Dave! Yes, got the shroud. Doesn't fit. It's a little too "deep" front to back, actually right in front of the hood latch. It's nothing that cannot be fixed easily. Just haven't had time. Otherwise a great looking piece and you truly have "mad skills"
Michel
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I actually left it a little long in case you needed to trim it. I have a stock bumper and I slip mine under that alluminum support thing that it has. I know you have a Fujita bumper and I hve to assume that the edge on your bumper just rolls over ( bad explination) I also was not sure which radiator you are using so I was not sure how far to bend the lip downward. It should not be to bad but if it is send it back with a descrpition of what to correct and I ceratainly will if you like. If you have to trim it use a hand held jig saw with a metal cutting blade ( more teeth than a wood blade) Make sure you clamp it to a bench or the saw can jump and you can loose a finger or something..
Other than that thanks for the compliment and I am glad you liked it.
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It is the front curved part that is a bit too long...just the center portion in front of the hood latch. I was simply going to grind it down. Just havent had the chance as of yet with all my other issues. The motor and tranny are back in the car with a new oil pan courtesy of Xcessive Motorsports. Nice piece and it does not leak! I have attached a few images of the pan and Cosmo to FD motor mounts. Also, Carlos Lopez (left) and Rick Engman(Center) and the new Mazda LMP2 prototype, Rick and Mrs. Lopez in the background.
[quote name='Fd3BOOST' date='Apr 19 2005, 06:18 AM']I actually left it a little long in case you needed to trim it. I have a stock bumper and I slip mine under that alluminum support thing that it has. I know you have a Fujita bumper and I hve to assume that the edge on your bumper just rolls over ( bad explination) I also was not sure which radiator you are using so I was not sure how far to bend the lip downward. It should not be to bad but if it is send it back with a descrpition of what to correct and I ceratainly will if you like. If you have to trim it use a hand held jig saw with a metal cutting blade ( more teeth than a wood blade) Make sure you clamp it to a bench or the saw can jump and you can loose a finger or something..
Other than that thanks for the compliment and I am glad you liked it.
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[quote name='Fd3BOOST' date='Apr 19 2005, 06:18 AM']I actually left it a little long in case you needed to trim it. I have a stock bumper and I slip mine under that alluminum support thing that it has. I know you have a Fujita bumper and I hve to assume that the edge on your bumper just rolls over ( bad explination) I also was not sure which radiator you are using so I was not sure how far to bend the lip downward. It should not be to bad but if it is send it back with a descrpition of what to correct and I ceratainly will if you like. If you have to trim it use a hand held jig saw with a metal cutting blade ( more teeth than a wood blade) Make sure you clamp it to a bench or the saw can jump and you can loose a finger or something..
Other than that thanks for the compliment and I am glad you liked it.
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so that oil pan is working out for you... i guess your removed the motor eh? sounds like me, i had the whole thing in and for some reason the throw out bearing wouldn't slide far enough forward to catch the clutch plate.... i had to retake out the motor, but the pressure plate in the tranny, and then connect it like that, once the motor was in..... it was gay.
how many miles you have on it now?
harrison
how many miles you have on it now?
harrison
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Turned out to be the pilot bearing. I'm also "leak free" so the oil pan is working very well and as designed!
I have 500 as of this evening. It'll take me another week or perhaps a bit more before I hit the 1K mark.
Michel
I have 500 as of this evening. It'll take me another week or perhaps a bit more before I hit the 1K mark.
Michel