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Old 05-15-2007, 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by BOTTLEFED' post='871732' date='May 13 2007, 11:07 PM

BTW, the outer seal just pushed up out of the groove during disassembly


Yep that almost always happens on disassembly.



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Old 05-15-2007, 10:42 AM
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Another odd thing I found was that the oil pump chain was worn out - I measured .5" of total deflection.

Isn't that a a normally replaced part in a full rebuild?
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Ok, talked to the engine builder and they're going to help me out but I need to find a good intermediate housing. If anyone has one or knows where to get one, please let me know - thanks.
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Originally Posted by Jeff20B' post='871751' date='May 14 2007, 11:45 AM

That's because they used vaseline, which makes the coolant seals grow. I personally use the Mike method with wheel bearing grease. Just enough to hold them in the grooves.


I defer to heretic's superior eyesight

Does anyone know what the outer layer is in the multilayer OEM seals? or why it might be expand due to exposure to vaseline?
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Old 05-16-2007, 01:00 AM
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the fact that any mineral oil will cause rubber to swell, so im guessing that its rubber???? seems logical
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Old 05-16-2007, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by BOTTLEFED' post='871876' date='May 15 2007, 08:42 AM

Another odd thing I found was that the oil pump chain was worn out - I measured .5" of total deflection.

Isn't that a a normally replaced part in a full rebuild?


i think most people dont. ive never heard of a failure either.



chain is cheap though $25..
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Originally Posted by j9fd3s' post='871989' date='May 16 2007, 02:47 PM

i think most people dont. ive never heard of a failure either.



chain is cheap though $25..


Looks like a careless rebuild to me. The damage in the iron coolant o-ring groove was probably overlooked and the motor put together that way. The silicone is also careless and sloppy. Who did the rebuild?
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Old 05-17-2007, 12:09 AM
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I shouldn't say who built the engine right now - we are getting this straightened out

The builder claims that this all happened after the rebuild. He says that the oring failure occurred because too much water was run in the coolant mixture and rusted the passages in the irons - in 3k mi. after rebuild. He says that he never uses black silicone so the motor must have been opened up after he rebuilt it. And he says the chain was not replaced because the motor was a reman that they bought(new?) and rebuilt.
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sounds like your "builder" just did his first rebuild for profit



my 2 pennies
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Old 05-17-2007, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by BOTTLEFED' post='872117' date='May 17 2007, 05:09 AM

I shouldn't say who built the engine right now - we are getting this straightened out

The builder claims that this all happened after the rebuild. He says that the oring failure occurred because too much water was run in the coolant mixture and rusted the passages in the irons - in 3k mi. after rebuild. He says that he never uses black silicone so the motor must have been opened up after he rebuilt it. And he says the chain was not replaced because the motor was a reman that they bought(new?) and rebuilt.


Too much water? I have run 20% coolant ant 80% distilled water in the summer with no excessive corrosion for years. I would believe that id you never chnaged the coolant. That coolant o-ring almost looks like it got pinched during assembly.
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