i saw an older one today that i had never seen before. it was some old guy driving it. those things are tt right. as he was pulling away through the parking lot i could hear the turbos spool. man that was loud.

I'm not too sure if they have turbos or not, but they do look pretty nice.

The look of those car are mean.I think they are powered by a NA V8 if I can remember correctly.Maybe he put a turbo on it? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/dunno.gif I know they have the power to max out the stock 5spd tranny.I remember seeing that on Car and Driver once in the top speed competition.It would have kept up with the viper if it had a 6spd. :bigthumg:

Imagine one with twin turbos.. :smirk: damn.... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

hey shane, i saw a red lotus espirit today on broadway, he was turning right into "on the border" i got to be lucky enough to be behind him when he went around some people to get into the turning lane, i got to hear his turbos too ,i almost wet myself

The four-cylinders are single turbo, V8s (much rarer) are twin turbo



J

They used to all be a turbo 4 cylinder but a few years ago they ditched the 4 and replaced it with a small v8 twin turbo that fits in the same space. V8 is just newer, not any special option or anything. I think that you can still buy a new one for under $100k, which makes me wonder why anybody with that kind of money to spend would ever buy an NSX.

hey matt i saw you at chilis tonight. dont think you saw me. it must be the same one. i had never seen one in tyler before this one. it is an older one

chillis,was i with a guy with blue hair and a cute girl next to me,and some other chicks? man i love chili's,i had a HUGE frikin bacon burger. :bigthumg:

whoo speaking of hair i think im gonna do my pink :bigthumg:

i want to be the only straight man with pink hair, oh yeah, and thats my girlfriends idea....women can talk you into some crazy stuff :bigthumg:

yeah they can. yeah it was you at chilis i was gonna say hey but you were preoccupied. i have hot pink braces. hehe they are great.

hey shane, did travis ever sell his t11? my cars paid off in 2 months and i really want his t11, if he takes it down to rotary performance and gets a power fc that thing is as good as mine :bigthumg:

he never sold it. haha he wont be putting on a pfc. they either dont make those for fcs or they are very rare. he doesnt want to put that much money into it anyways. thats the main reason he wants to sell it. my bro just told me about a tII in longview though. he said he was gonna find out the details and let me know. its an 89 i know that. red with black. dont know about mods he was gonna find out. the miles were kind of high but im suspecting a rebuild. ask me about this one later.

cool. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

Yea, for $100K.. I'd probably go with something besides an NSX.. 911 twin turbo for me..

Yea I think I would have to go with a Porsche also https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

hell yea. :bigthumg: https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/boink.gif

I'd buy an R34 Vspec II from Motorex if I had $100k...

First of all it is a girl car. Major chick magnet. Their are very few of them, while every one in houston drives a turbo Porsche. And I think the biggest seller is the whole VTEC thing. PArts for an NSX arent that exspenive compared to the other cars and gets better fuel mileage.

lotus esprit is priced a lil over 80,000 dollars, there is a dealer near my house...... summit new jersey,



i have pictures of my fd next to one of these somewhere

i dont understand why anybody would want a 280hp car that is 4wd and has no parts availabilty for a 100k



you can buy this for 91 grand



dude buy an 1994 F1 car and fuckaround with it on a race course:D



arrows f1 car for 120k



you cant believe what you can buy for under 100grand and will KILL any streetcar you can think of in you imagination:D here



the first one is my boss's car...that thing is badass

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Those are tough to get away with driving on the street, though, wouldn't you say?



You can drive the Skyline to work every day, or on a track (they make awesome track cars).



And, just so you know (and maybe to sway your opinion https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR), the Skyline is well more than 280hp, that's a Japanese rating. There is a "gentleman's agreement" among manufacturers not to rate cars over 300hp, so they all rate at 280. On top of that, you're dealing with a twin turbo 6 cyl. Plenty of tuning potential, easy to knock that up to 700+hp. And what's wrong with AWD? Awesome acceleration, great handling, and nice and smooth at high speeds.



And then there are the smaller, less important things, like it's sweet looking and has a lot of cool gadgets inside. Finally, how many people do you know who have one?



Ok, you win on the availability of parts... Gotta spend a pretty penny bringing everything over from Japan, but if you had $100k to spend on a car, would you worry about that?



Yeah, an F1 car would be cool, but I'll take the R34. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/boink.gif

hmmm have you ever seen that move "driven" ? they were racing f1 cars on the street, how frikin awsom would that be?! man, ok, i dont really like that movie but i ould reccomend it if you want to ee one of the coolest street racing scenes, but they were racing on the streets with f1 cars, its nice to see a movie with street racing in something besides a riced out civic or eclipse :bigthumg:

that was such a bullshit scenario........lol



it had cool scenes, but......... is it really that easy to just climb into an F1 car in the show room and get on the streets? but then again, its a movie

If they were fitted with turnsignals/other needed lights and were streetlegal you could drive F1 cars on the street i think. But i bet insurance would be a ton.

Yeah the street racing scene in that movie was the best..

their headlights would never meet DOT standard height

the key to that is "if they were" and "streetlegal"



lol, that will never happen



im sure you can still drive it in the streets, and die gettin trampled by an SUV

jesus, come on people! The espirit comes in a v8 TT and a v8 NA. Both are very quick cars! My uncle used to have one. But i would take the exige over the espirit.. nothing can touch those things in the corners! NOTHING! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

another double post...

mother fucker.. the board is messing up. :( Gave me an error every time, yet it still posted .. stupid invisionboard!

ESPRIT only came in one model........ turbos

there was an older NA model

sweet Esprit 3D screen saver here:



http://go-concepts.themes.tucows.com/saver...iew/250016.html



warning, seems to be a bit of a resource hog



J

Oh, didn't read the last couple responses - to set the record straight, the S1 Esprit had an N/A 2.0L four. So did the S2. 160hp. At the end of S2 production there was the S2.2, so called because the engine was enlarged to 2.2L. The S3 was available in 2.2L N/A and 2.2L single turbo form. The turbo was non-intercooled. The S3 was the last of the Guigaro cars. In 1987 the Stevens redesign made its appearance, powered by the same engines as the S3. The N/A variant was very rare though and only in England. The S3 turbos and the early Stevens cars were carburetted with dual sidedraft Dell'Ortos. In 1989 or 1990, forget which, the SE model was made available with an intercooled version of the 2.2L single-turbo engine and 250hp. This was increased for later models up to I believe about 280 for the S4S. I don't remember when the V8 was introduced, probably about 1994 or so. The V8 was always twin-turbo, intercooled. It was basically two of the four-cylinders put together, with a displacement of 3.5L. The most power it put out was 350hp in the aptly named Sport 350 variant.



There, more than you ever wanted to know about Esprit engines.



J

My favorite Esprit, the S4:



http://www.travelhead.com/cars/lotus/s4/s4-06.jpg



https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683894.gif



J

It's best to think of the espirt as a flawed genius. It has a great profile, but it's spoiled by the various bits of plastic that have been tacked on over the years. The foot well is poorly shaped with the left front wheel being where you would want a dead pedal. Its biggest downfall is the drive train. It has a glass French transmission and non LSD. That is why the V8tt only has 350hp.....that number was achieved w/o intercooling! Even with 350hp the gearbox doesn't hold up well. There are countless posts on the esprit forum about broken gearboxes and half shafts. One owner said that lotus told him the half shafts are good for only about 10 launches! There are also lots of other "character flaws" that make it a hard choice (Pontiac steering wheel, fuel tank(s) corrosion, limited dealer support, a custom $70 windshield wiper, ect.



A group in the UK was building up an esprit V8 race car last year. They put in a qualfie gearbox ($10,000+), cut apart most of the interior fiberglass and replaced it with rivoted alloy and a steel tubing, changed the turbos, added intercoolers and gave it proper fender flares-not the pep boy tackons that come with the car. Maybe that is the way to do it. Buy one for $50,000 and dump another 50 into it. I've always thought it would be neat to stuff a 20b into it with a porsche transaxle https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png



I agree, the S4 is the best looking esprit.

I like the way you think https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png



J

Lotus Esprit V8 can make more power, it's the Renault gearbox that can't handle it https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683358.gif

slap on an intercooler, lsd, and raise the boost!!!

well, if they can do the 20b transplant on a delorean, they can do it for this car also