Not an expert on Domestics. I just went to SEMA this year, and I read most of the GM performance mags along with Sport Compact Car, Import Tuner, Road and Track, and Car and Driver. It isn't that I am some kind of expert, I just spend a lot of time paying attention to the up and coming car news. Other then that I spend all my time on muscle car boards, so if I don't know something I am quickly corrected. The actual reason I joined nopistons, is because I really want to know more about rotaries because I love the fact that the engines aren't based off the water pump. The inherent problem is that I don't know anything about them so I can't really post effectively anywhere else on this board. All I can do is read the posts.

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif just bustin balls man, tryin to keep the rivalry alive ya know. http://www.leghumper.com/forums/images/smilies/box.gif



merry christmas!

I know it was only a concept car, but, didn't Ford build a BOSS concept with a 6 litre V-10 in it??

Not to my knowledge, but it might have been done. The big three are always building weird **** behind closed doors i.e. the GM performance sector that doesn't allow admission to their shop but once in a blue moon.



The Boss mustang that was released to the public was nothing different from an SVT or a GT for the time (depending on which it started as stock) and was a paint scheme.



Oh yeah, don't worry about busting my chops. The reason I responded with no venom is that you were right to bust my balls about my enthusiam towards muscle cars.

They did, it was in R&T last year I believe. One of those mags at least. They had severe problems with traction during the test IIRC!

I still like the focus rs with the 4.6 SVT motor swapped in to it. I saw it run around the track at SEMA and it was crazy.

One of the races at Road Atlanta (the weekend of the d1 grang prix event) hosted a focus, that thing was pretty awesome. It did'nt have **** for the real time acura team though. There was another race that had some 1st gen rx-7's and old D-240's It was good to see some old school racing.

they did have a boss concept, but i can't remember it having a v10, although that doesn't mean it didn't, i just can't remember.



As far as i know, svt is doing well. Ford has basically said that there will be a cobra either in 05 or 06. I'd assume either based off the 03' & 04' 4.6 S/C or the 5.0 cammer. Apperentlly the ford GTR ( i hate the name, should be mustang R not GTR) is a confirmed deal that don't conflict with the cobra or the guarenteed shelby. Shelby in an interview was asked if he like the look of the new mustang and he repliled "i'd better if i'm gonna put my name on it" basically saying there will be a stang with the shelby title.



It's true that the SVT focus didn't sell as well sa they would have liked, but the lightning is doing great. Over here in california is seems the dominant cars on the track (wednesday nights at sac raceway) are 03 cobras, WS6s, comaros, and lightnings. I do see lots of them at the tracks, and I know they don't sit at dealers long around here. True, the sales numbers aren't high, but they don't make very many of them, much like the cobra.



Personally i can't see how ford if going to manage all these performance cars all around the same target price range. They say the GTR will be under 50k, somewhere between 32&45k. I can't see that happening. The most recent concept that was driven by press was a stripped out 5 point harness 5.0 cammer with over 450 hp and no interior, full cage. It was a 80k machine, not because of the money ford put into it, but rather the kind of regulations for putting a car like that on the street.



If i'm wrong about any of this i'm sorry. My resources are as far as i know accurate, i would never lie knowingly. I hang out at mustangworld.com alot, there are some of the most knowledgable people about cars i know there, and many many people there aren't mustang fans, very diverse. A bit too large though, and a bit immatrure at times.



Anyhoo, i'm done now, sorry for the long post. I don't seem to find many threads here that i know something about, so i had to post. I myself have never owned a mustang, but my brother owned a 93 cobra (stolen) and a 88 gt (vandelized, sold) and i've worked on mustangs my whole life. And on a more personal note, i've never been in a factory stang that scared me. They should be feared due to potential, but stock... they're beatable. Mostly comes down to driver. I've seen people drive stock gt's into the 13.4 range, and i've seen stock gt's run 15's with no miss shifts. But even cobra's without a good driver aren't 12 sec cars stock. Ford plans to make a car that anyone can hit 12's with, but I fear that at the price they're trying to hit many of them will end up in the wreaking yard, ya know?



Ok, i'll shut up now.

SVT, like I said, is being phased out. The new Cobra will, if it exists, will be built by ford in house.

That last paragraph up top made me laugh. Ford will be upping the power in the stang gt to 325, to try and drive sales away from the upcoming camaro. The camaro SS had 325hp in '98, and 335 in '01. It just seems like Ford is acting like this car is a god, even though it's behind the power curve by about nine years.



"The all new 2005 Mustang- now with 300hp!". Sorry, the slp camaro ss was rated at 315 back in '96. My only other problem with the Mustang is it seems like Ford is trying to make it fill way too many slots in their line-up. From the 210hp v6 model, up to the supposed 450+hp svt. Granted, it will sell, but IMO, there will be a lot of people that wouldn't buy an svt because they'd be turned off by a $45k mustang. They'd rather spend their money on something higher class like a vette or porsche