13B in a custom lotus 7
#1
Hello there rotory friends! I am looking into a lotus seven like project car with a machinist friend of mine. I had intended to run a mitsu destroker for high rpm shenanigans but after some persuasion i am looking at the TII. I was wondering what would be required other than motor/tranny/ecu+wiring to fit this motor.
And a few questions
-How do the motor mounts work? Where are they how far does the lowest point of the engine and trans sit below them?
-How stripped can the motor be? Emmissions systems/AC those sorts of things as this is not a street car?
-With open exhaust and intake what sort of power would be expected?
Thanks for any info guys!
Garrett Smith
Shawano, WI
P.S.
Anyone know of rotaries in junkyards around me?
And a few questions
-How do the motor mounts work? Where are they how far does the lowest point of the engine and trans sit below them?
-How stripped can the motor be? Emmissions systems/AC those sorts of things as this is not a street car?
-With open exhaust and intake what sort of power would be expected?
Thanks for any info guys!
Garrett Smith
Shawano, WI
P.S.
Anyone know of rotaries in junkyards around me?
#2
well the lotus is a mid engined car os you will have to make an adaptor ot mount the lotus trans to the 13b the fab up som cutom mounts for the engine and you best off running a standalone managment system
#3
The seven is the tube frame FR that is also built by caterham and a few others using various engines. The buildup is being done as a learning experience and track car when its done. I would need a driveshaft to mate the TII trans to the rear end but other than that i just wonder about dimensions so i can start the modeling process.
Thanks again
Garrett
Thanks again
Garrett
#5
i live in the milwaukee madison area of wisconsin, im directly between the cities. anyways if you need some help with the project feel free to contact me.
as for the mounts on the t2 motor. on is comes from the bottom center of the oil pan one the right side of the engine the other is center side mount on the engine. you will probly have to make new mounts or weld some stand offs on the frame. stock turbo open exhaust using a stock ecu means you need to run the MAF so there is a bit of restiction there but figure around 200 to 250 hp with a good tune and not much budget.
the motor can be stripped down fairly well. remove all emissions works but i got to warn ya they become cold blooded bitches in ower climate. some times takes me forever to get mine to start but once there warm there ok. anyways feel free to contact me if you need anything.
randy
as for the mounts on the t2 motor. on is comes from the bottom center of the oil pan one the right side of the engine the other is center side mount on the engine. you will probly have to make new mounts or weld some stand offs on the frame. stock turbo open exhaust using a stock ecu means you need to run the MAF so there is a bit of restiction there but figure around 200 to 250 hp with a good tune and not much budget.
the motor can be stripped down fairly well. remove all emissions works but i got to warn ya they become cold blooded bitches in ower climate. some times takes me forever to get mine to start but once there warm there ok. anyways feel free to contact me if you need anything.
randy
#6
Alright so the motor mounts are pretty standard then thats good news! The car will never see action below 50 degrees so cold weather isn't a huge issue here.
-On a more depressing note my DD eclipse grenaded the top end on a 15k mile old timing belt...???
-Slightly more depressing i backed into the shop owners car when i was dropping off the key
Garrett
-On a more depressing note my DD eclipse grenaded the top end on a 15k mile old timing belt...???
-Slightly more depressing i backed into the shop owners car when i was dropping off the key
Garrett
#7
Originally Posted by (NA)turalyRWD' post='858083' date='Feb 8 2007, 01:18 PM
-On a more depressing note my DD eclipse grenaded the top end on a 15k mile old timing belt...???
-Slightly more depressing i backed into the shop owners car when i was dropping off the key
Garrett
#10
It should be very easy to adapt a TII motor and tranny into the seven. I would think the hardest part would be getting the gearshift **** exactly where you want it.
If you get a used engine I would recommend having it rebuilt before installation (ask me how I know).
The stock ECU is very easy to wire up if you have the factory wire harness. However, a stand alone unit is even easier and better for high horse applications.
The turbo helps quiet the rotary but the engine can still be LOUD. You may want to put a decent muffler on it. I am using a three inch Supertrapp and it is still loud.
I think this is the perfect engine for a Lotus Seven clone. You will not need a lot of torque to get it moving and then the power just keeps building all the way past 10,000 RPM. Without much work the rotary can put out more power than the chassis can manage( 300 plus horse depending on how radical you go).
As a side note: Do you know anyone selling a Lotus Europa? I am looking for one.
If you get a used engine I would recommend having it rebuilt before installation (ask me how I know).
The stock ECU is very easy to wire up if you have the factory wire harness. However, a stand alone unit is even easier and better for high horse applications.
The turbo helps quiet the rotary but the engine can still be LOUD. You may want to put a decent muffler on it. I am using a three inch Supertrapp and it is still loud.
I think this is the perfect engine for a Lotus Seven clone. You will not need a lot of torque to get it moving and then the power just keeps building all the way past 10,000 RPM. Without much work the rotary can put out more power than the chassis can manage( 300 plus horse depending on how radical you go).
As a side note: Do you know anyone selling a Lotus Europa? I am looking for one.