Dude, I was waiting for you to get in on this.



Maybe you should tell them what you drive!



Let's see...a turbo Civic SI is probably putting 350-400 to the wheels; curb weight of about 2700 lbs. A Supra is putting maybe the same amount to the wheels, but weighs about 3600lbs.



The Civic (or CRX for that matter) is the perfect sleeper because no one expects it to be fast, until it spanks your ***.



This weekend at NOPI a turbo Civic SI put down 423HP to the wheels w/o nitrous. That's a mean car.

 

honestly you can do a lot to any car....hondas are great engines...we all know why people make fun of them....so im not even gonna get into this

 

because the majority of the Honduhs out there are all rice and bolt ons.. The ones who actually take the time and spend the money to make the engine fast get great results, but it is like that for any car.. spend time and money on the right stuff and you will have a fast car..

 

i love honda and honda motors but i do hate the little ricer ******s that think they got stand alone fuel systems... and again motec exhaust... like i've seriously had arguments with guys that think they do.

 

I'd like to see him race from a stop. Dyno #'s dont impress me the ability to get the power to the ground on a FF is very difficult unless, of course, your willing to drive around with slicks on your car all the time.



My friend has a 350 FWHP Eclipse he cannot break mid 13's with it because he cannot hook the thing up. From a 40 or 50 MPH roll he is leathal from a stop he is a smoke show. On the dyno he is a hero.



I'd love to know how much that dude with the 423 FWHP Civic spent getting there. How many blown engines? I would imagine he has spent well over 25K building that car. What does he do with it?? Impress everyone with big dyno #'s??



Big horsepower doesn't impress me a well balanced car that is fast everywhere, turns, straights is my idea of an awesome car.





But like W.C. Fields once said "There is an *** for every seat".

 

well said Jim

 

Great reply Jim.



Dyno specs don't mean **** in a basket if the car can't perform on the street.



Slightly funny thing noticed today. A group of Honda owners congregated in a parking lot, with their systems(sound systems) blasting. Drove by and pulled up to see what they were talking about....over the loud rap music I barely overheard some garbage about one wanting to race an RX for a pink slip...should've challenged but he'd probably bitch out after 10 secs.

 

don't get me wrong. I don't hate any hondas, I hate the Honda drivers that have a stock honda and think it can take any car in the world. I'll be the first to admit, my car is not fast, but i'd consider it quick.

 

To clear up any misconceptions, I second that. It's the wannabes that ruin Honda for me.

 

a kid over in my town has an SR20DET in his 200sx.

the thing pulls very hard.......

my buddy with his SR swapped 240 raced him a few times.

got the jump on him at all the stoplight races but on the highway the kid pulled on us by a car or so.