First Gen. Vs 850 Beemer
i may be wrong on the numbers, but if memory serves me correctly, the BMW 850's that came to this country had "only" 296 HP. i know that it did not top 300 because the E34 M5 held the title of the most powerful BMW (in this country) for years, and that means that the 850 could not have had more than 310 HP. and yes, they were available with a Getrag 6 speed manual.
good run! the 850's are pretty potent, but they are very lazy!
good run! the 850's are pretty potent, but they are very lazy!
Originally Posted by diabolical1' date='Dec 17 2003, 09:56 AM
i may be wrong on the numbers, but if memory serves me correctly, the BMW 850's that came to this country had "only" 296 HP. i know that it did not top 300 because the E34 M5 held the title of the most powerful BMW (in this country) for years, and that means that the 850 could not have had more than 310 HP. and yes, they were available with a Getrag 6 speed manual.
good run! the 850's are pretty potent, but they are very lazy!
good run! the 850's are pretty potent, but they are very lazy!
so insignificant that you just HAD spend a minute pointing out how insignificant it is, right?
but i guess for someone that doesn't grasp the concept of horsepower vs. torque, then it may be hard to resist spreading your knowledge.
well ... okay ... just in case it was unclear for the hopelessly obtuse, such as BrandonDrecksage, i was simply trying to get a correct number up there for those interested. we have numbers ranging from 200 to 350 HP for the 850 in this thread - for those of us not so observant.
that was all i was doing, case closed!
well ... okay ... just in case it was unclear for the hopelessly obtuse, such as BrandonDrecksage, i was simply trying to get a correct number up there for those interested. we have numbers ranging from 200 to 350 HP for the 850 in this thread - for those of us not so observant.
that was all i was doing, case closed!
Originally Posted by diabolical1' date='Dec 17 2003, 02:01 PM
so insignificant that you just HAD spend a minute pointing out how insignificant it is, right?
but i guess for someone that doesn't grasp the concept of horsepower vs. torque, then it may be hard to resist spreading your knowledge.
Originally Posted by BrandonDrecksage' date='Dec 17 2003, 07:49 AM
I don't see how something that weighs that much with only 300 hp can go 180... porsches top out around that and they have 415 hp...and weigh less
look ... dude, i'm not trying to get into a pissing match with you on this. i had enough of that on other forums. you made your comment ... fine, it's your right. i responded, that's mine. i guess i didn't see the point to your comments, just as you didn't see point to mine ... even steven. let's move on ...
well ... okay.
assuming that the problem is not my understanding (or lack thereof) of the difference between them, there is no reason why a heavy car with the right gearing and aerodynamics can't run 180 MPH, because weight only hinders acceleration, not top speed. HP vs. Torque ...
based on that understanding (or misunderstanding) i didn't understand why you asked the question i quoted above. keep in mind that i'm only using the 180 MPH number because it's what you stated. i know an 850 is governed to 155 MPH, but i don't know how fast an unrestricted one could run. i also don't have gearing or aerodynamic figures on it.
assuming that the problem is not my understanding (or lack thereof) of the difference between them, there is no reason why a heavy car with the right gearing and aerodynamics can't run 180 MPH, because weight only hinders acceleration, not top speed. HP vs. Torque ...
based on that understanding (or misunderstanding) i didn't understand why you asked the question i quoted above. keep in mind that i'm only using the 180 MPH number because it's what you stated. i know an 850 is governed to 155 MPH, but i don't know how fast an unrestricted one could run. i also don't have gearing or aerodynamic figures on it.
Originally Posted by diabolical1' date='Dec 17 2003, 03:12 PM
well ... okay.
assuming that the problem is not my understanding (or lack thereof) of the difference between them, there is no reason why a heavy car with the right gearing and aerodynamics can't run 180 MPH, because weight only hinders acceleration, not top speed. HP vs. Torque ...
based on that understanding (or misunderstanding) i didn't understand why you asked the question i quoted above. keep in mind that i'm only using the 180 MPH number because it's what you stated. i know an 850 is governed to 155 MPH, but i don't know how fast an unrestricted one could run. i also don't have gearing or aerodynamic figures on it.
assuming that the problem is not my understanding (or lack thereof) of the difference between them, there is no reason why a heavy car with the right gearing and aerodynamics can't run 180 MPH, because weight only hinders acceleration, not top speed. HP vs. Torque ...
based on that understanding (or misunderstanding) i didn't understand why you asked the question i quoted above. keep in mind that i'm only using the 180 MPH number because it's what you stated. i know an 850 is governed to 155 MPH, but i don't know how fast an unrestricted one could run. i also don't have gearing or aerodynamic figures on it.
okay ... i see what you're thinking, now. in that case, yes, i would agree that it would take longer for the heavier car (all else being equal, of course) to attain the top speed. i'm just not of the opinion that it would be as big a factor as other variables. at any rate, when i read that question/comment i thought you were simply saying that the weight would prevent it from achieving a certain speed.


