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Old 10-29-2003, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by greg schroeder' date='Oct 16 2003, 08:10 AM
I had previously raced one 911 turbo and won three times from rolling punches. It's now very apparent that particular 911 turbo did not have the X50 package as that he was unable to keep up with my FD from any speed.



The X50 package is a Porsche factory engine performance upgrade which consists of larger turbos, larger intercoolers and raising the boost from .8 bar to .9 bar. The list price for the option is about $18,000. Porsche advertises about a half second acceleration improvement from 0-60 mph with the upgrade.



From an outward view of the 911 turbo the base engine 911 turbo looks identical to the 911 turbo X50. The 911 turbo of either type with the automatic transmission(Triptronic) is about 100 lbs heavier than the manual.



Other non-factory aftermarket 911 turbo packages exist which have been proven to be quite reliable. Here in Arizona one company does a variety of staged packages. Here's a link.



http://www.evoms.com/p996tt%20tuning.htm



Basically it's the same stuff, just different car..... boost, turbos, intercoolers, injectors.....bla, bla, bla
what the hell does your friend do? so i can do the same.
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A friend of mine has an '03 911 turbo and in any kind of straight line it blows me away. We just hit the drag strip a couple weeks ago and his first time ever to drag race a car he hit 13.05. Second run was 12.8 and magazines have it at about 11.9. I can hang better from a roll but he still takes me out pretty quickly. That is a 6-speed turbo, no X50. If you were able to hang with or beat a 911 turbo, is there a chance it was an automatic? Or actually, how stock are you?



That Evolution Motorsports place is pretty cool. I went down there with my friend one day at lunch and talked to the guys there. Some of what they drive is amazing! I want a job at a performance shop that pays me enough to drive an '02 911 turbo and a heavily modifyed 7-series BMW. I dont think anybody working there drove anything as old or cheap as my FD, but I am sure my FD could take most of them





Oh yeah, and Dumbrotorkid, in the end the guy with a 911 is driving a very nice Porsche while we are still driving an old Mazda, nothing against my FD, I still love it.
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Old 10-30-2003, 12:25 PM
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Dude, that rotary pick up is the stuff. I love it!
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Old 11-05-2003, 08:34 PM
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it doesnt matter one bit if it were an automatic, were so used to the slushboxes found in everyday cars but those are strong transmissions and in some cases the tiptronic sportscars can shift faster than a stick. remember its a porsche, not a honda
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Old 11-12-2003, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by RotaryRevolution' date='Nov 5 2003, 06:34 PM
it doesnt matter one bit if it were an automatic, were so used to the slushboxes found in everyday cars but those are strong transmissions and in some cases the tiptronic sportscars can shift faster than a stick. remember its a porsche, not a honda
The auto is close to 100 lbs heavier and has less gears to divide performance into power bands. They are slower than the manual.



Here are the specs for the 911 turbo. The convertible is heavier by about another 150 lbs and slower yet. What's ironic is the convertible, manual 911 turbo has similar acceleration to that of a stock FD.



911 turbo coupe



911 turbo cabriolet
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Originally Posted by greg schroeder' date='Nov 12 2003, 06:42 AM
What's ironic is the convertible, manual 911 turbo has similar acceleration to that of a stock FD.



911 turbo coupe



911 turbo cabriolet
oops sorry. Meant to say the convertible auto.
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Originally Posted by greg schroeder' date='Oct 15 2003, 03:30 PM
Actually I was with him when he got it new. The 2003 911 turbo X50 was $143,000 before tax. There is no doubt that it's one of the finest sports cars on the road today for those with the budget to get one.
There is no way i would even consider paying that price tag, on a porsche. ROFLMAO
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Old 11-12-2003, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by greg schroeder' date='Oct 15 2003, 04:30 PM
Actually I was with him when he got it new. The 2003 911 turbo X50 was $143,000 before tax. There is no doubt that it's one of the finest sports cars on the road today for those with the budget to get one.
For that kinda jack I would have bought the Ford GT, or try to. Still a nice car.
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Make him race you with his psm and traction control fuses pulled.

Why does this matter?-Because it doesn't have a LSD. 140k+ car and it uses the brakes to regulate wheel spin.
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FYI a buddy of mine has the 2002 non turbo 911 and ran mid to high 14's...... four times on 11/12/03 at the track.Lot o money not that fast. But the spoiler looks bad *** (pops out) when he gets above 60 mph.
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