Hey guys, I frequent the srtforums often and those guys seem to think that on the highway they can beat an RX7, the FD I believe (93-97 body style). One was talking about his kill and I couldn't believe it, although I haven't been in the SRT4 I just can't see it winning because of the RX7's highway capabilities. Anyways, I wanted to hear what you guys thought about this, or just post your races against an SRT4, if you've won or lost. Please don't delete/lock/move this post.

It should be very close, if the RX-7 is stock. And if it's stock there's a good chance it may be missing some power due to being 10 years old.



Since you're on the highway traction shouldn't be an issue.



FD 2800 lbs, 220 rwhp

SRT-4 2850ish, 225 fwhp



Throw in the fact that the SRT-4 is geared for 168 mph instead of 200 mph top speed and there's a very good chance it will be quicker than an FD.



It'll never be as sexy though! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

not yet, and don't exactly plan on it...2 losses are enough. Yes, I'm admitting that my FC will NOT beat an SRT 4 at a standstill...I'd have to hope for a crappy driver in the Neon. Or Yuki being in a VERRRRY good mood.



Neon or not, the damn things are ballsy.

i think i beat one, but i cant tell if he was trying, he launched but seemed to stand still while i was accelerating.



muahaha. stupid neons, i dare one to line up.



kevin.

i refuse to lose to a neon.... just like a ferrari or porsche would refuse to lose a mazda



could happen, but i dont wanna believe it could

I see, but how about a highway start, 50+. I know that the RX7's are beasts on the highway, my 88 TurboII is still damn fast for a car 15 years old (only 50,000 miles) and I know that the newer ones are even faster, in an old car and driver mag the RX7 beat a twin turbo supra, TT 300ZX, porsche 968, and Corvette in top gear 50-70mph.

I think yall are over estimating these cars. I just read about 10 reviews from owners who hate the thing. It runs low 14's from what I have also read. But most of all. The car is butt ugly!

low 14s with traction problems...a lot of the srt4s have been dynoing at 225ish at the wheels...and the 3rd gen rx7 is 255 hp if i'm correct...15% loss would be around 220ish...they are also similar in weight...it would probably come down to the driver

yea the srt4's already getting an lsd in the next model year, cant believe dodge released it without one in the first place.



woo one tire burnout!



kevin.

This was posted a long time ago my me here is a repost:

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He is playing cat and mouse with me in traffic. He keeps close to me and keeps showing off his cars impressive acceleration. Actually it was not shabby. The exhaust tone was pretty loud.



So we end up side by side rolling at about 25-30 MPH holding up traffic. He asks if I have a twin turbo or single I say single. He says those can be pretty fast. LOL. Then he says "Do you even know what this is??" Without a hesitation I tell him yes a SRT-4. I guess I was supposed to be scared.



I figure he we held up traffic enough. I ask if he wants a go at it. He says hell yeah!



I let him hit it first. I punch it and pull immediately. So I let off for a sec and go 1/2 throttle. He finally spools up and starts to pull on me so I floor it. I sort of half power shifted third, this is the first time I really nailed shifting to 3rd. I have not hit it this hard even at the track. It suprised the hell out of me because I didn't just chirp the wheels I broke them loose and fishtailed. I stayed in it and put an easy 10 cars between us. I had tons of room so I stayed in it up to about 105. Then shifted to 4th and feathered the throttle ever so slightly. I could hear the flames popping out of my pipe.



I slow back down he comes up with this amazed look on his face and screams you know that thing was shooting flames. I just smile shake my head and tell him I am turning. I turned off and went home.

A stock FD will take an SRT-4, I drive them everyday (SRT-4's). I never had a good race in an SRT-4 against something quick, but I killed a riced out Corrola easily LOL. Please don't underestimate these cars, be smart and always give people the benefit of the doubt. These cars are quick, not the prettiest around, but quick nontheless. With a little more boost and a good driver, they can hang with almost anything from Japan, comperebly tuned of course.

i raced one when i was stock and when i was only runnig about 3.5lbs of boost past 4500rpm and ji KILLED it off the line by an easy 1.5 car lenghts. he caught me by 75, but thats just because i had **** boost https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub..._DIR#>/sad.png

so you guys are saying stock for stock the FD would win?

i think stock for stock it would come down to the driver...they also got 15 more hp in 2004 along with the better diff...so it would have to come down to the driver

Stock for stock it would be close but i think the fd would come out on top.

With both cars in like new, stock condition, new stock size tires, equal drivers and same intake temperature the FD would win without question from any speed.

I kicked a srt-4's ass, with 'exhaust, intake and a BOV'



I dont know if he was telling the truth, but i made him look stupid in front of the local car hangout https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

Based on what?

I don't doubt the RX7 would win in the higher speeds but these SRT owners believe that they could completely smoke the RX7 so I've been looking for some real life experiences.

the srt-4 is a good car but many races are decided by driver. Not only that but you can't do much to the srt-4 to make more power. read the modified article on it..they break the engine down. and talk about its sensors. they have a few new ones that won't let you mod it for more boost. the good thing is that it will make the advertised hp at any altitude and make computer adjustments quickly due to its new c.a.s.. they also got rid of the old style of having the computer index a sorted map for diffrent temps and altitudes etc.. the computer makes constant calculations. anyway read the article it was in august or sept. issue. good car but crap if you want to mod yourself. FD would stomp it but be a close 1/4 race with good drivers.

he is a shitty driver...with that stuff done..it should have been close, tell him to learn how to drive before he opens his mouth

midnightdriver, what article are you talking about, where is it?

you know I was thinking about that after I posted that. I'm not sure really I forget things easy at times...(that can't be good at my age.) if it wasn't in aug or sept. try may or june possibly july. don't think july because I was gone. or try spot compact car in may june. I have to get it back from my friend. then I'll know for sure. sorry if any confusion

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png tyson your the man...good cover. thanks. I knew it was one of those 2...what month was it?

Those of you who think the RX-7 will automatically win and the SRT-4 can't be modified should see this page.



ATP

how are they compensating for the sensors that monitor air temp and atmospheric pressure. unless they have the upgraded ones from mopar

Every fuel injected car monitors air temp. The SRT-4 seems to have 2 pressure sensors, but neither are for atmospheric pressure, according to that article.



Your article also mentions the stock sensors are good to 18 psi. They used 16 psi for the 12.9

Sound like 4RR anybody?



1st post and already it's a stupid, all caps one.



Back to being on topic, interesting article.

Wow thanks for those articles guys. Interesting to see these little cars move, I definitely want to try one out.



Lets keep it clean hazardous.

Yeah, they've got my curiosity, alright.



I work for a Dodge dealership in northern NJ, and we had a couple of the SRT-4's on our lot. Pretty nice specs on them, but I'd rather actually SEE one in motion for myself instead of hearing one of our salesguys repeat the words "Oh it's SO fast" or "amazing acceleration!".



Anybody have a vid of one hauling ass? Like maybe at a strip?

sure do you want to see a stock race or one that is modified, I can find tons over at srtforums,what do you want to see?

His '86 N/A wooped(?) two of them already...they were the kind without the hood scoop.

for vids of one hauling ass go to the site tyson posted and scroll down past their downpipe pics, youll see it lined up vs. a corvette thats a vid of a 12.9 run at 16psi etc etc.



kevin.

Yeah well 4RR's RHD TII = pwnage, it'll smoke you, your Neons, and LeeTheSlacker's 1800hp FD. *if anybody remembers that post, I forgot who said that*

Jeezus....that.......was insane. *saw the vid of the Neon vs the Vette*...........



Yup, definitely DON'T wanna **** w/one of those. At least not until I get some serious mods done.

yeah with a few mods those things get into high 12's. Theres plenty videos of them taking EVO's. STi's, stangs, etc. Let me know what you want and i'll post a few links

he is a shitty driver...with that stuff done..it should have been close, tell him to learn how to drive before he opens his mouth [/quote]

i dont think it would have beat bobby even if its modded, bobby is running very very very low 12's or high 11's on his car... his car can hang with vipers for god's sake, let along a stupid neon

Oh man, those are a force to be reckoned with!



Makes me want to complete my engine swap right now.



**** school!