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FikseRxSeven 03-27-2003 03:12 PM

any one have experience and have opinions on any radar detectors, ladar detectors, radar jammers, laser jammers, and that radio wave detector thing

Sinful7 03-27-2003 03:34 PM

Only a handful of detectors are the "best", argueably the Valentine One is "The Best". Surprisingly, Radio Shack brand detectors are strong and effective. Most detectors have a rear facing 'window' that allows for some reception of radar/lidar. Usually the rear facing 'window' appears as a clear plastic nub protruding from the top of the detector housing. Most often, the rear facing detection is limited to laser/lidar and does not include radar.



Radar and Laser jammers are tricky.

The only legal version is what's called a 'passive' jammer. This means that the jammer detects a radar frequency, then emits a lower, interfering frequency that is intended to be delivered along with the returning radar waves. This is meant to confuse the radar device. They do not work for several reasons, some more obvious than others.



On the other hand, 'Active' radar jammers can be built, but are in fact illegal. An 'Active' radar jammer can emit a constant 'wave' of radar that is near a preset speed-corresponding frequency. You build the jammer out of parts, and it will emit a 55MPH-equivalent (or whatever speed you choose) frequency, and sweep the frequency range up and down 100Mhz from the preset signal. These work for two reasons: Emitted waves are stronger than the reflected waves of the originating device, and the "sweep" of the frequency will compensate for variance from device to device, making it more effective in many circumstances. Optionally, you can build an active radar jammer that is triggered by the output of your radar detector (triggered by the "beeep"), and it will emit a very specific frequency (as opposed to a fluctuating one) until it is manually reset. This method is less likely to be detected BY the police, but may also be less compatible. Active radar jammers are typically large in construction, due to the equipment required, such as a microwave transducer and a horn antenna. Also, their effectiveness varies with the vehicle. A vehicle with a larger radar profile may be more difficult to cover with a single active radar jammer.



No experience with the 'wave detector' thing.

FikseRxSeven 03-27-2003 03:47 PM

interesting.........



did you type all of htat just for me?hehe

Sinful7 03-27-2003 03:52 PM

yupp.. you're welcome

FikseRxSeven 03-27-2003 04:46 PM

any other opinions

yayer 03-27-2003 04:48 PM

hey he typed it for me too https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif

thanks dude

FikseRxSeven 03-27-2003 05:03 PM

hahaha,he must be feeling generous today

Silver Ninety Three 03-27-2003 05:09 PM

V1

DrPJM1 03-27-2003 07:28 PM

I just love my V1!

Srce 03-27-2003 08:24 PM

V motehr******* ONE.

FikseRxSeven 03-27-2003 09:23 PM

hmmmm......... v1 is the way to go

rx7machine 03-28-2003 01:01 AM

But what's best to get a V1 or a radar/laser jammer?

FikseRxSeven 03-28-2003 02:08 AM


Originally Posted by rx7machine' date='Mar 27 2003, 11:01 PM
But what's best to get a V1 or a radar/laser jammer?

can you use them in conjunction with each other?

93 R1 03-28-2003 07:48 AM

We install the k40 kits at work. They have sensors mounted in the front and rear of the car. Never heard of any thing bad about them.

mkoch1 03-28-2003 08:17 AM

Just a side note, I looked into radar/laser jammers years ago. Check out http://www.k40.com/Dealers/DealerSup...0LASERWARS.PDF also search for info on laser wars. they used to be a yearly laser jammer / radar detector shot out.



Only a few laser jammers really work most a junk. I spent several hours talking to different companies about them. The EPA controls light emitting devises like lasers, and has no laws about emitting them passively. The FCC controls radar and has huge fines and prison time for people who jam radar. Think about it, what would happen if you where jamming radar and drove by and air port.



Mark

Sinful7 03-28-2003 09:52 AM

What??? Dude.. The radar used by the FAA is a *slightly* different frequency than police-band, or civillian-band radar. And you'd have to get caught to go to jail. The cop would have to have a radar detector to sense an active jam, and when he shot his gun, the detector would go nutz. At anyrate, passive jammers are not illegal, but they are ineffective.



As for passive laser jammers, I think that's a total crock. The cross-section of a laser detection beam is extrememly small, and FAST, as compared to radar. By the time the circutry in the jammer has fired the "jamming" signal, the original gun would already have it's readings.

mkoch1 03-28-2003 10:39 AM

I meant FCC anyway. And I realize you would have to get caught, but all it takes is the cop with the crazy read out on his radar gun to pull you over. I am still pretty sure even passive jammers are illegal if you get caught, unless your jammer has one of the FCC ID codes issued to it.



I agree on the laser jammers, some work from the test but I don't think they would work 100% of the time. Depending on the car removing you front plate makes the car very hard to shoot. One article I read said the ram air firebird without a front plate was almost impossible to laser from the front. It didn't have any nice flat reflective surfaces to shoot.

FikseRxSeven 03-28-2003 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by mkoch1' date='Mar 28 2003, 08:39 AM
I meant FCC anyway. And I realize you would have to get caught, but all it takes is the cop with the crazy read out on his radar gun to pull you over. I am still pretty sure even passive jammers are illegal if you get caught, unless your jammer has one of the FCC ID codes issued to it.



I agree on the laser jammers, some work from the test but I don't think they would work 100% of the time. Depending on the car removing you front plate makes the car very hard to shoot. One article I read said the ram air firebird without a front plate was almost impossible to laser from the front. It didn't have any nice flat reflective surfaces to shoot.

hmmm, gives me an ideea.......what if...... you made the front plates a little duller so it wont reflect as well?

mkoch1 03-28-2003 02:27 PM

I have seen clear tag covers that say they help reflect laser back at an upward angle. Similar to the kind that blur your plate for the stop light cameras. The key to laser is they must shoot something that will reflect the narrow laser back to the gun. A flat reflective front plate is a great target for them. Angling your plate like this " \ " (bottom out further than the top) may help, not sure.

FikseRxSeven 03-28-2003 02:35 PM

well, ill do that anyways...... oh wait...... i have the box thing in front of the 99 spec bumpeers

Sinful7 03-28-2003 03:34 PM

That's really not very helpful anyway.. Mark is right in that the license plate is a great target, but it's the overall 'radar profile' of the vehicle that makes the difference. The laser does not need a 100% return of it's signal to measure the speed. If that were true, each car would be clocked from straight on (no elevation or offset angles) on a flat surface. Besides, I've been laser clocked with NO front plate. The truth is, your car has a certain radar profile that will provide a measurable reflection of any directed waves. The only way to have an unmeasureable profile would be to have a car that was as flat as paper, with no height.



let's not get confused here, stealth technology is not yet availble in cars, plastic lenses don't stop laser, (or photo radar in many cases), and the best way to avoid getting caught speeding is to get a reliable detector and use your eyes.

FikseRxSeven 03-28-2003 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by Sinful7' date='Mar 28 2003, 01:34 PM
That's really not very helpful anyway.. Mark is right in that the license plate is a great target, but it's the overall 'radar profile' of the vehicle that makes the difference. The laser does not need a 100% return of it's signal to measure the speed. If that were true, each car would be clocked from straight on (no elevation or offset angles) on a flat surface. Besides, I've been laser clocked with NO front plate. The truth is, your car has a certain radar profile that will provide a measurable reflection of any directed waves. The only way to have an unmeasureable profile would be to have a car that was as flat as paper, with no height.



let's not get confused here, stealth technology is not yet availble in cars, plastic lenses don't stop laser, (or photo radar in many cases), and the best way to avoid getting caught speeding is to get a reliable detector and use your eyes.

oh yeah....... and dont speed too....... kinda hard to do when you drive an fd though

FikseRxSeven 03-28-2003 03:50 PM

fd3boost could have used a radar/laser detector........ i saw a video of him gettin pulled over.....hehe

rx7machine 03-28-2003 05:09 PM


fd3boost could have used a radar/laser detector........ i saw a video of him gettin pulled over.....hehe
I haven't seen that vid.. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif that really sucks he got pulled though..

So.. these V1's are suppose to be the best, right?

FikseRxSeven 03-28-2003 05:11 PM

its in vosko's site

rx7machine 03-28-2003 06:10 PM

Oh ok, I'll have to check it out sometime..

FikseRxSeven 03-29-2003 03:28 PM

anyone know about those detectors that looks for the frequency of the highway patrol's cb radio?



what brand is that? and can it be used with a V1

Blink 03-29-2003 03:51 PM

I have a K40 in my car.. i dunno if it works as well as it's a mental check of not to do anything stupid when the lights are on it or its beeping https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

89 Rag 03-29-2003 04:07 PM

I have an Escort radar/laser detector, works great, even around sweeping corners. As long as YOU do YOUR job.

FikseRxSeven 03-29-2003 04:15 PM

whats a k40?

DrPJM1 03-29-2003 08:22 PM

You can also get a mobile scanner for under the radio if you wanted.

FikseRxSeven 03-29-2003 08:55 PM

explain more about the mobile scanner

Rob x-7 03-30-2003 10:25 AM

I find it easier to opey speed limits, once I got a ticket that cost me $275 thank god it was in South Carolina and it didnt go on my NYS drivers license, I had the Escort at the time, but its pretty useless when you are one of very few cars on the road ( which seems like the ideal time to speed ) and the cop uses instant on radar. The radar detector worked alright, it lit up like a damm christmas tree along with the troopers lights in the bushes.

FikseRxSeven 03-30-2003 10:54 AM

its easier to follow the speed laws when you have a good warning

Rob x-7 03-30-2003 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by cmartinp28' date='Mar 30 2003, 11:54 AM
its easier to follow the speed laws when you have a good warning

unless you got a kojak with a instant on kodak.

FikseRxSeven 03-30-2003 12:42 PM

kojack with instant kodak? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif

Rob x-7 03-30-2003 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by cmartinp28' date='Mar 30 2003, 01:42 PM

lol, you ever see Cannonball Run? When the 2 japenese guys were

racing around in the high tech Subaru talking japenese?



Kojac was police show and kodak was old cb slang for radar.

FikseRxSeven 03-30-2003 06:19 PM

oooohhhhh yyyeaaaahhhhhh



nope, never saw cannonball run

Rob x-7 03-30-2003 06:24 PM

you should see it, read the book by Brock Yates first.

FikseRxSeven 04-01-2003 01:32 AM

reading?!? i dont know when exactly ws the last time i did that...... and everytime i did it there are a lot of pictures accompanying the text


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