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Originally Posted by sidewinderx7' date='Dec 9 2003, 12:40 PM
great! i have family in the military too. And i support our military. I never said this country was a bad place to live. Jesus man, stop trying to put words in my mouth to make yourself look better. You have no basis for an argument and you just look stupid.
anyways, i would love to wait for your replies ... but i have some things i need to take care of. School stuff ... you guys should try it.
anyways, i would love to wait for your replies ... but i have some things i need to take care of. School stuff ... you guys should try it.
You may not have specifically said "this country was a bad place to live" but you sure as hell came across that way. don't you get a hint when like 99% of the members who responded called you something a long the lines of a dumbass and said why don't you ******* leave..? not to mention.. started a new topic on how much of a dumbass you are.. its obvious that you are unhappy and you don't respect our country as much as you should.
well its now more apparent that 99% of the people that DID post in there and say something are complete fucktards. Who obviously know nothing of the topic at hand and should have been posting in the first place. Had they said something constructive or ANYTHING that can be thought of a coherent response, i wouldnt think that. Again, dont put words in my mouth. I simply made that thread because some bitch *** of a mod replied to me insulting me and closed the thread. Then did i again... I never said i didnt like this country. Hell i will argue with you about any controversial topic, and i will be the advocate JUST to enlighten myself with what the other person has to say. Just because the US is a terrorist country (by definition) doesnt mean i dont like to live here. If anyone made an *** out of themselves it was the 99% (that you talk of) that replied in the thread. That goes to show you how mindless the general public really is. Had we have been in a one on one debate, any number of people that replied in that thread would have gotten their *** ripped. It was clearly apparent that no one in there (with the exception of 1 person) had anything i was going to listen to.
You guys act like a bunch of little kids ... feeding off yourselves. Jump on the bandwagon! insult me! ... why?! I dont know! but everyone else is doing it! im gonna too! maybe then people will accept me!!
anyways.. im out the door now. good day to you all. And sinful7, dude, i didnt say **** to you. Dont get me started again.
jesus ******* christ ... learn to open your mind. You know what you guys remind me of. That south park episode with the panda bear. seriously... you guys need to learn that everyone doesnt see things your way, and that your way isnt always right. If someone has something to say, LISTEN ... THINK ... REPLY. Dont read half of what i have to say and reply with "your an ***!!". Instead take what I said, think about it. If you disagree, tell me WHY. If you dont want to be a part of it, DONT POST. Simple...
You guys act like a bunch of little kids ... feeding off yourselves. Jump on the bandwagon! insult me! ... why?! I dont know! but everyone else is doing it! im gonna too! maybe then people will accept me!!
anyways.. im out the door now. good day to you all. And sinful7, dude, i didnt say **** to you. Dont get me started again.
jesus ******* christ ... learn to open your mind. You know what you guys remind me of. That south park episode with the panda bear. seriously... you guys need to learn that everyone doesnt see things your way, and that your way isnt always right. If someone has something to say, LISTEN ... THINK ... REPLY. Dont read half of what i have to say and reply with "your an ***!!". Instead take what I said, think about it. If you disagree, tell me WHY. If you dont want to be a part of it, DONT POST. Simple...
And sinful7, dude, i didnt say **** to you. Dont get me started again.
jesus ******* christ ... learn to open your mind.
jesus ******* christ ... learn to open your mind.
Haha, I was defending you! If you're the one who's opinion seems to be different from the majority, which it obviously is, then my statement understandibly implies that differences of opinion should be recognized and not demeaned! Maybe YOU should calm the **** down and learn to READ, THINK and then POST.
Go change your tampon.
Ok ok . . for the love of GOD!!
Ok, by definition the US could be construed as a Terrorist Nation!
As can almost every other country in the world at some point in there history.
Alot of countries have employed such tactics at some point.
Hell, lets not leave anyone out here! Nations, Religious groups, Companies, Individuals!
The point of all this is what? Sometimes "people" do the wrong thing to achive the right goal, and visa versa.
Do you think the US has a stangle hold on this "terrorism"?
Do you think one form is better or worse than another?
Are you simply looking for someone to agree with you, that the US is really no better than any of these other "evil" nations?
Ask a question, get an answer.
State an opinion, which needs no answer. . . get railroaded.
At no point does name calling come into a rational decent conversation.
So, deep breaths everybody!
It's gonna be ok!
Ok, by definition the US could be construed as a Terrorist Nation!
As can almost every other country in the world at some point in there history.
Alot of countries have employed such tactics at some point.
Hell, lets not leave anyone out here! Nations, Religious groups, Companies, Individuals!
The point of all this is what? Sometimes "people" do the wrong thing to achive the right goal, and visa versa.
Do you think the US has a stangle hold on this "terrorism"?
Do you think one form is better or worse than another?
Are you simply looking for someone to agree with you, that the US is really no better than any of these other "evil" nations?
Ask a question, get an answer.
State an opinion, which needs no answer. . . get railroaded.
At no point does name calling come into a rational decent conversation.
So, deep breaths everybody!
It's gonna be ok!
I have no idea what brought this argument on, sidewinderx7 and I'm not sure this forum is the right place for this discussion, but since you have started it I have to say that I agree with you 100%.
As far as I'm concerned the U.S. is one of the worst if not the worst terrorist "country" in the world. The reason I say this is because the active terrorists involved were/are not a minority of extremists (as is the case with many of the other so-called terrorist countries) but in America's case are the people who actually run the country. The acts of terrorism that come to my mind are mainly the wars in Japan and Vietnam, which as far as I'm concerned were absolutely horrific and totally unnecessary, and personally I can't see how you can argue with that, call them "acts of war" or what you will, but to wipe out innocent villages by way of napalm, and to drop not one but TWO nuclear warheads on Hiroshima and Nagasaki (again a civilian majority), I feel the attack on the twin towers pales in comparison to these.
I know that George Bush didn't drop thos bombs on Japan but I do feel that he has absolutely abused his position of power in the way he dealt with Iraq. It is nobody's position (not even America's) to decide what way people should live at the expense of innocent lives. War is a last resort, but Bush went in gun's a blazin' completely disregarding the United Nations
h , ready to pick up where dad left off. It is sadly ironic that the official reason Bush started the war against Iraq was to confiscate "weapons of mass destruction" (it's funny how they're referred to as this as opposed to nuclear weapons - would this be because the latter would be a reminder that the only country to EVER have used nuclear weapons on another country is the U.S.)
Anyway since they discovered that they weren't going to find any WMD's they quickly edited the war's cause to "freeing the Iraqi's" which I think is scary how . On this note, the vast majority of Iraqi's were opposed to the U.S. invasion (regardless of how incredibly much better their new democratic country is going to be, and how the evil Saddam is gone (by the way, I don't dispute that that man IS well and truly evil).
As I said this is not the place for such an argargument, but I feel that sidewinderx7 is getting the wrong end of the stick. What I have just posted is merely my own observation and in no way am I trying to press my opinion on anyone. Take from it what you will, but it was intended to be as constructive and unoffensive as possible.
Mark
As far as I'm concerned the U.S. is one of the worst if not the worst terrorist "country" in the world. The reason I say this is because the active terrorists involved were/are not a minority of extremists (as is the case with many of the other so-called terrorist countries) but in America's case are the people who actually run the country. The acts of terrorism that come to my mind are mainly the wars in Japan and Vietnam, which as far as I'm concerned were absolutely horrific and totally unnecessary, and personally I can't see how you can argue with that, call them "acts of war" or what you will, but to wipe out innocent villages by way of napalm, and to drop not one but TWO nuclear warheads on Hiroshima and Nagasaki (again a civilian majority), I feel the attack on the twin towers pales in comparison to these.
I know that George Bush didn't drop thos bombs on Japan but I do feel that he has absolutely abused his position of power in the way he dealt with Iraq. It is nobody's position (not even America's) to decide what way people should live at the expense of innocent lives. War is a last resort, but Bush went in gun's a blazin' completely disregarding the United Nations
h , ready to pick up where dad left off. It is sadly ironic that the official reason Bush started the war against Iraq was to confiscate "weapons of mass destruction" (it's funny how they're referred to as this as opposed to nuclear weapons - would this be because the latter would be a reminder that the only country to EVER have used nuclear weapons on another country is the U.S.)Anyway since they discovered that they weren't going to find any WMD's they quickly edited the war's cause to "freeing the Iraqi's" which I think is scary how . On this note, the vast majority of Iraqi's were opposed to the U.S. invasion (regardless of how incredibly much better their new democratic country is going to be, and how the evil Saddam is gone (by the way, I don't dispute that that man IS well and truly evil).
As I said this is not the place for such an argargument, but I feel that sidewinderx7 is getting the wrong end of the stick. What I have just posted is merely my own observation and in no way am I trying to press my opinion on anyone. Take from it what you will, but it was intended to be as constructive and unoffensive as possible.
Mark


