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09-15-2003, 08:45 AM
#42
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hhmmm, let me add my fuel to the fire...
So, I was wondering if it was illegal to tape songs off the radio. So I asked my coworker, who also works at a local radio station. She said that when cassette recorders came to the market, the recording industry freaked out. So they cut a deal that the recording industry would get a fraction of the cost of each recording device. I don't know if this is right, this is just what she told me.
Now, couldn't the same thing be done here? Like, it's illegal (screw "right" and "wrong," they're too subjective) to d'load and copy music, but the devices that make this possible are legal. So, could a fraction of the cost of those devices go toward pacifying the RIAA, thereby making d'loading the music legal? (assuming d'loading becomes controlled in some way)
and 75Repu, you and me both.
So, I was wondering if it was illegal to tape songs off the radio. So I asked my coworker, who also works at a local radio station. She said that when cassette recorders came to the market, the recording industry freaked out. So they cut a deal that the recording industry would get a fraction of the cost of each recording device. I don't know if this is right, this is just what she told me.
Now, couldn't the same thing be done here? Like, it's illegal (screw "right" and "wrong," they're too subjective) to d'load and copy music, but the devices that make this possible are legal. So, could a fraction of the cost of those devices go toward pacifying the RIAA, thereby making d'loading the music legal? (assuming d'loading becomes controlled in some way)
and 75Repu, you and me both.
09-15-2003, 09:07 AM
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Here're my thoughts:
1/2 the people on this forum have illegal cars, where illegal is anything you do to a car that messes with the emissions set up.
It seems arbitrary that one wouldn't care about violating federal EPA laws, but would care about federal copyright laws.
How is modding a street car with a T88 ok because it's fun but d/l'ing music is bad because it's illegal? Just doesn't seem a consistent set of values.
1/2 the people on this forum have illegal cars, where illegal is anything you do to a car that messes with the emissions set up.
It seems arbitrary that one wouldn't care about violating federal EPA laws, but would care about federal copyright laws.
How is modding a street car with a T88 ok because it's fun but d/l'ing music is bad because it's illegal? Just doesn't seem a consistent set of values.
09-15-2003, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Baldy' date='Sep 15 2003, 08:45 AM
hhmmm, let me add my fuel to the fire...
So, I was wondering if it was illegal to tape songs off the radio. So I asked my coworker, who also works at a local radio station. She said that when cassette recorders came to the market, the recording industry freaked out. So they cut a deal that the recording industry would get a fraction of the cost of each recording device. I don't know if this is right, this is just what she told me.
Now, couldn't the same thing be done here? Like, it's illegal (screw "right" and "wrong," they're too subjective) to d'load and copy music, but the devices that make this possible are legal. So, could a fraction of the cost of those devices go toward pacifying the RIAA, thereby making d'loading the music legal? (assuming d'loading becomes controlled in some way)
and 75Repu, you and me both.
So, I was wondering if it was illegal to tape songs off the radio. So I asked my coworker, who also works at a local radio station. She said that when cassette recorders came to the market, the recording industry freaked out. So they cut a deal that the recording industry would get a fraction of the cost of each recording device. I don't know if this is right, this is just what she told me.
Now, couldn't the same thing be done here? Like, it's illegal (screw "right" and "wrong," they're too subjective) to d'load and copy music, but the devices that make this possible are legal. So, could a fraction of the cost of those devices go toward pacifying the RIAA, thereby making d'loading the music legal? (assuming d'loading becomes controlled in some way)
and 75Repu, you and me both.
simple kazaa p2p stuff, there's no charge, so no profit for the riaa to feed off of, thats the ONLY reason they're pursuing this so much.
kevin.
09-15-2003, 01:39 PM
#45
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Originally Posted by teknics' date='Sep 15 2003, 02:37 PM
[quote name='Baldy' date='Sep 15 2003, 08:45 AM'] hhmmm, let me add my fuel to the fire...
So, I was wondering if it was illegal to tape songs off the radio. So I asked my coworker, who also works at a local radio station. She said that when cassette recorders came to the market, the recording industry freaked out. So they cut a deal that the recording industry would get a fraction of the cost of each recording device. I don't know if this is right, this is just what she told me.
Now, couldn't the same thing be done here? Like, it's illegal (screw "right" and "wrong," they're too subjective) to d'load and copy music, but the devices that make this possible are legal. So, could a fraction of the cost of those devices go toward pacifying the RIAA, thereby making d'loading the music legal? (assuming d'loading becomes controlled in some way)
and 75Repu, you and me both.
So, I was wondering if it was illegal to tape songs off the radio. So I asked my coworker, who also works at a local radio station. She said that when cassette recorders came to the market, the recording industry freaked out. So they cut a deal that the recording industry would get a fraction of the cost of each recording device. I don't know if this is right, this is just what she told me.
Now, couldn't the same thing be done here? Like, it's illegal (screw "right" and "wrong," they're too subjective) to d'load and copy music, but the devices that make this possible are legal. So, could a fraction of the cost of those devices go toward pacifying the RIAA, thereby making d'loading the music legal? (assuming d'loading becomes controlled in some way)
and 75Repu, you and me both.
simple kazaa p2p stuff, there's no charge, so no profit for the riaa to feed off of, thats the ONLY reason they're pursuing this so much.
kevin. [/quote]
I like apple's idea, at least you know you're getting good quality. But at 99 cents a song, it costs about as much as buying a CD off the shelf!
09-15-2003, 01:48 PM
#46
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Originally Posted by Baldy' date='Sep 15 2003, 01:39 PM
[quote name='teknics' date='Sep 15 2003, 02:37 PM'] [quote name='Baldy' date='Sep 15 2003, 08:45 AM'] hhmmm, let me add my fuel to the fire...
So, I was wondering if it was illegal to tape songs off the radio. So I asked my coworker, who also works at a local radio station. She said that when cassette recorders came to the market, the recording industry freaked out. So they cut a deal that the recording industry would get a fraction of the cost of each recording device. I don't know if this is right, this is just what she told me.
Now, couldn't the same thing be done here? Like, it's illegal (screw "right" and "wrong," they're too subjective) to d'load and copy music, but the devices that make this possible are legal. So, could a fraction of the cost of those devices go toward pacifying the RIAA, thereby making d'loading the music legal? (assuming d'loading becomes controlled in some way)
and 75Repu, you and me both.
So, I was wondering if it was illegal to tape songs off the radio. So I asked my coworker, who also works at a local radio station. She said that when cassette recorders came to the market, the recording industry freaked out. So they cut a deal that the recording industry would get a fraction of the cost of each recording device. I don't know if this is right, this is just what she told me.
Now, couldn't the same thing be done here? Like, it's illegal (screw "right" and "wrong," they're too subjective) to d'load and copy music, but the devices that make this possible are legal. So, could a fraction of the cost of those devices go toward pacifying the RIAA, thereby making d'loading the music legal? (assuming d'loading becomes controlled in some way)
and 75Repu, you and me both.
simple kazaa p2p stuff, there's no charge, so no profit for the riaa to feed off of, thats the ONLY reason they're pursuing this so much.
kevin. [/quote]
I like apple's idea, at least you know you're getting good quality. But at 99 cents a song, it costs about as much as buying a CD off the shelf! [/quote]
again, thats the idea.
you figure 15-20 songs per cd, thats $15-$20 to download a whole cd.
so the riaa gets the same amout as if you bought the cd itself.
kevin.
09-15-2003, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Rotarydragon' date='Sep 14 2003, 02:44 PM
Ahhhh the joys of trying to justify illegal behavior, never ceases to amaze me.
It's that the "joys never CEASE", not, "the joys never ceaseS".
So here's your sentence as you should have written it:
Ahhhh, the joys of trying to justify illegal behavior never cease to amaze me.
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Yeah I know, but I needed to pick on somebody.
09-15-2003, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Srce' date='Sep 15 2003, 02:58 PM
[quote name='Rotarydragon' date='Sep 14 2003, 02:44 PM'] Ahhhh the joys of trying to justify illegal behavior, never ceases to amaze me.
It's that the "joys never CEASE", not, "the joys never ceaseS".
So here's your sentence as you should have written it:
Ahhhh, the joys of trying to justify illegal behavior never cease to amaze me.
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Yeah I know, but I needed to pick on somebody.
Why would joys amaze him? I think it should be more like:
"Ahhhh, the joys of trying to justify illegal behavior, the excuses never cease to amaze me."
or something like that...I'm bored...
09-15-2003, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Srce' date='Sep 15 2003, 01:58 PM
[quote name='Rotarydragon' date='Sep 14 2003, 02:44 PM'] Ahhhh the joys of trying to justify illegal behavior, never ceases to amaze me.
It's that the "joys never CEASE", not, "the joys never ceaseS".
So here's your sentence as you should have written it:
Ahhhh, the joys of trying to justify illegal behavior never cease to amaze me.
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Yeah I know, but I needed to pick on somebody.
or maybe he incorrectly pluralized the word joy and made it joys.
if it was "the joy never ceases" it would be correct.
eat that, beech ***.
kevin.