Ill take FSBO ANYDAY



who cares about the marketing?

I open the newspaper, see the ad, go see the house and make my deal.



or I drive through the neighboorhood I want and look for signs, I used to drive every weekend through neighboorhoods looking for "FOR SALE" signs.



If I sell my house im printing up flyers and putting them in my neighboors mailbox, this way if someone they know wants the house they can come see me, then I put a ad in the paper.



Houses sell fast in my area, **** the realtors.

 

[quote name='PhoenixDownVII' date='Jun 14 2005, 01:06 PM']WEWT! You do know of MLS right?



FSBO's are only advertised sparingly in the paper or on a sign on their front lawn. If someone come's to me looking for a $300k said home, of which a FSBO exists that they'd love, it's not going to come up in a search on MLS. This makes it especially tough for RELO's, which make up a majority of the market.



It's poor marketing, the only people that will know of your house for sale as a FSBO are those driving by or those that happen to read your 1" ad in a local paper, NOT the majority of buyers coming from out of state, who have NO time to cruise EVERY street and find your home while also still working where they live, and would much rather use a local realtor to check MLS and find what's available in the area.



Discounted brokers, (FOXTONS) are on MLS, and I've shown their properties. They are really tough to work with, which is a definite downside for us Realtors, but if I have someone who wants a home listed by them, I'm not about to stop for my sake...they want it...they get it.



Half of the BS you'll hear Realtors doing are simply because they're people that like to take advantage of other people and their money, which you'll find ANYWHERE.


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MLS = major league soccer?

 

Pretty big argument started over a one sentence first-post...even for GenD.

 

since phoenix apparently doesnt know anything about the major supporting product of the bottom feeding industry he works in. MLS was owned and operated by PRC INC. of Mclean VA. (at least during the time i worked for them (92-96). They were bought out by Black and Decker (or was it the other way around?)



anywho, I started with a small engineering firm called ATI, who was bought out by EMHAERDT Corp. who was in turn bought by PRC. The only thing that resulted from that was a huge problem of a 26 man office owned and managed by a coorparate giant who didnt know who we were, what we did, nor did they ******* care.



PRC also specialized in 911 network systems fwiw

 

I bet you all have the same feeling for car salesmen? Hehe.

 

I actually liked the last 2 salesmen I have dealt with, hence the reason I bought the cars



one mazda, one ford

 

When trying to get an apt in NYC my friends and I were completely screwed over by realitors a number of times, the worst of which was when the realitor told us to come in and sign the contract on a certain date etc, and then 5 min after i got on a train to the city, calls back and says "umm, nevermind, we lost the apartment." This was after we had paid the deposit on the place (through him, he insisted), and then he gave us hell for wanting it back. ******* slimeball. The next time we went on craigslist.com and found one FSBO, or rather for rent by owner, and got that one. The whole procedure by owner was even less complicated to us than thru the realitor, we got a better deal, and we got to know and meet/talk with the owner of the place we're staying in, whereas the realitor would not let us meet with the owner for fear that we'd go around him to make the deal. The same sort of thing has happened to a few other people I know looking for a place in NYC

 

[quote name='banzaitoyota' date='Jun 14 2005, 06:53 PM']since phoenix apparently doesnt know anything about the major supporting product of the bottom feeding industry he works in. MLS was owned and operated by PRC INC. of Mclean VA. (at least during the time i worked for them (92-96). They were bought out by Black and Decker (or was it the other way around?)




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You need to watch your mouth.



It's easy to become a realtor, and you automatically become a part of MLS, and NAR. If you want to have a REAL ESTATE LICENSE, that's what you become a part of.



I did my 40 hour class and went to albany and passed with flying colors.



Now, walking into such an occupation, you quickly get involved with your LOCAL (State and County) rules which can be very diffferent compared to other states and counties.



I don't know who here walks into such a multi-branded occupation knowing every last detail of every last individual of every last thing they are associated with,.



You couldn't even name it yourself, lucky for you to have google and the internet to help out.



Phins said it best, you find it in any field, and as I admitted, it runs rampant in this field because it doesn't take any sort of degree to become one, just be 18+ and do the classwork for the lisence.



Sorry to hear some of you got screwed over, knowledge is power in any case...same with RE.



And in the end, I am agreeing with almost every sour point said about Realtors, NAR, and the "system" itself. Given your awesome arguementive "track record" in the past, I assume you don't/can't read much of what I say and have the attention span of a 5 year old with ADD.

 

[quote name='toplessFC3Sman' date='Jun 15 2005, 08:20 AM']When trying to get an apt in NYC my friends and I were completely screwed over by realitors a number of times, the worst of which was when the realitor told us to come in and sign the contract on a certain date etc, and then 5 min after i got on a train to the city, calls back and says "umm, nevermind, we lost the apartment." This was after we had paid the deposit on the place (through him, he insisted), and then he gave us hell for wanting it back. ******* slimeball. The next time we went on craigslist.com and found one FSBO, or rather for rent by owner, and got that one. The whole procedure by owner was even less complicated to us than thru the realitor, we got a better deal, and we got to know and meet/talk with the owner of the place we're staying in, whereas the realitor would not let us meet with the owner for fear that we'd go around him to make the deal. The same sort of thing has happened to a few other people I know looking for a place in NYC


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Yea, rentals are easy to get in/out of...and I even suggest those coming to me for rentals to check the local paper. One guy couldn't afford much of anything in this area and when I found him something, I told him to ignore the Real Estate side (I.e. My fee) and just approach the seller mano-e-mano.

 

"I did my 40 hour class and went to albany and passed with flying colors"



a WHOLE week OF TRAINING TO QUALIFY YOU IN YOUR PROFESSION!!!!!



WOW i AM ******* IMPRESSED!!!!!!!



THEY HAVE SUCH HIGH STANDARDS TO UPHOLD.



You yourself said it: "It's easy to become a realtor"



I think i would follow through with your earlier stated plans to find another line of work. Maybe one with 2 weeks of training?