NYC Transit Strike!
12-21-2005, 07:23 PM
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Alot of boats have HOBBS brand HOUR METER, its not its own unit of measure used specifically in airplanes
. And just like a boat- it starts to run the second power is turned on.
I just dont see such a market for hour meters, so Hobbs is considered the most popular.
Just dont throw the term "hobbs time" like its some kind of fancy airplane ****, im sure it would take more then 1 hour of time in total, but who the hell cares. Its still a fact that while any person can after a period of time get a pilot license and join a aero club, a person off the street cannot walk into the airport tomoroww and rent a plane to go to NYC for him and 3 friends for $70.
. And just like a boat- it starts to run the second power is turned on.
I just dont see such a market for hour meters, so Hobbs is considered the most popular.
Just dont throw the term "hobbs time" like its some kind of fancy airplane ****, im sure it would take more then 1 hour of time in total, but who the hell cares. Its still a fact that while any person can after a period of time get a pilot license and join a aero club, a person off the street cannot walk into the airport tomoroww and rent a plane to go to NYC for him and 3 friends for $70.
12-21-2005, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob x-7' post='788861' date='Dec 21 2005, 05:23 PM
Alot of boats have HOBBS brand HOUR METER, its not its own unit of measure used specifically in airplanes
. And just like a boat- it starts to run the second power is turned on.
I just dont see such a market for hour meters, so Hobbs is considered the most popular.
Just dont throw the term "hobbs time" like its some kind of fancy airplane ****, im sure it would take more then 1 hour of time in total, but who the hell cares. Its still a fact that while any person can after a period of time get a pilot license and join a aero club, a person off the street cannot walk into the airport tomoroww and rent a plane to go to NYC for him and 3 friends for $70.
wow. the fact that i referred to the hobbs meter as the hobbs meter blows my mind. ask anyone who flies.. it may "technically" be the hour meter.. but we all call it the HOBBS METER. quit being emo.
I INITIALLY SAID THIS :
when renting an airplane, you only pay for the time it's running. Not sitting. i see the confusion there.
this was to avoid "fancy" airplane ****...to make it easy for you to understand that when renting an airplane, you only pay for the time when the engine is running. i didn't even mention that they used a hobbs meter until 94t stated it in the 2nd page of this thread.
so why not jump on 94t's back about the hobbs meter? because you would rather act like a child, and smell my soiled boxrs.
if a hobbs meter or HOUR GAUGE is that ******* difficult for you to understand, so go jump on someone else's ***, instead of assuming that i bring all the "technical lingo" to the conversation...
and rob, if it did take more than an hour, it might take an hour and 15 minutes ROUND TRIP from KILG to KJFK. lets bring in every miniscule detail to this thread because i don't see the ******* problem in flying to nyc... you've been bashing since the beginning.
and as for the boat hour gauge or hobbs. (didn't know it was hobbs in a boat as well) go through the thread and you will see that i compared that to an airplane hobbs as well. WHILE THE ENGINES ARE RUNNING. no ****... you think a meter is going to run on a boat sitting in a trailor, or an airplane parked in a hangar?
anyone can fly to nyc for that same price. im sure you know a pilot rob... granted, you may be doomed to land for the rest of your life, but im sure you know someone with a license who would be more than willing to fly you.
12-21-2005, 07:59 PM
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nope, dont know any pilots, but im not doomed- I can buy a ticket whenever I want.
And I WAS going to say something when 94T mentioned the hobbs meter earlier, but I was leaving the house. I did not direct my hobbs meter comment at you, rather it was directed at both of you I suppose.
The hobbs meter does not measure only when the engine is running, it measures once power is turned on. Im sure you dont leave the power on when the engine is not running, but you still need the power and the engine running the whole time your in the place sitting on the runway and what not, im sure the old military plane has to warm up on a chilly 25 degree day doesnt it?
See, if you read carefully I also said WHO CARES how long the plane actually runs, I just said, once again, that a person off the street cannot rent that plane for $70. We can keep going on and on about if you wish, while we are at it lets say you know someone who owns and flies a helicopter, well then he can land you right in manhatten for $70 and you can skip the cab ride.
And I WAS going to say something when 94T mentioned the hobbs meter earlier, but I was leaving the house. I did not direct my hobbs meter comment at you, rather it was directed at both of you I suppose.
The hobbs meter does not measure only when the engine is running, it measures once power is turned on. Im sure you dont leave the power on when the engine is not running, but you still need the power and the engine running the whole time your in the place sitting on the runway and what not, im sure the old military plane has to warm up on a chilly 25 degree day doesnt it?
See, if you read carefully I also said WHO CARES how long the plane actually runs, I just said, once again, that a person off the street cannot rent that plane for $70. We can keep going on and on about if you wish, while we are at it lets say you know someone who owns and flies a helicopter, well then he can land you right in manhatten for $70 and you can skip the cab ride.
12-21-2005, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob x-7' post='788867' date='Dec 21 2005, 05:59 PM
nope, dont know any pilots, but im not doomed- I can buy a ticket whenever I want.
The hobbs meter does not measure only when the engine is running, it measures once power is turned on. Im sure you dont leave the power on when the engine is not running, but you still need the power and the engine running the whole time your in the place sitting on the runway and what not, im sure the old military plane has to warm up on a chilly 25 degree day doesnt it?
1. im sure you know a pilot.
2. the hobbs on an airplane is triggered by oil pressure. i don't know the specifics; it probably requires some sort of current to actually run it. my guess is that when the master switch is turned on, the hobbs sits in standy... or it is armed... but will not records time until there is a rise in oil pressure.
3. im sure a helicopter would be very convinient, but expensive as hell.
12-21-2005, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by boxrs4sale' post='788872' date='Dec 21 2005, 09:12 PM
1. im sure you know a pilot.
2. the hobbs on an airplane is triggered by oil pressure. i don't know the specifics; it probably requires some sort of current to actually run it. my guess is that when the master switch is turned on, the hobbs sits in standy... or it is armed... but will not records time until there is a rise in oil pressure.
3. im sure a helicopter would be very convinient, but expensive as hell.
nope, dont know any pilots.
What do you do with that pilot license besides fly to NYC anyhow? Does it make you any money?
And the meter only works on oil pressure if its hooked up that way, most people just run it to switched power-again- just like in a boat. No one goes for the oil adaptor- one more thing to break and go wrong.
12-21-2005, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob x-7' post='788873' date='Dec 21 2005, 06:16 PM
nope, dont know any pilots.
What do you do with that pilot license besides fly to NYC anyhow? Does it make you any money?
And the meter only works on oil pressure if its hooked up that way, most people just run it to switched power-again- just like in a boat. No one goes for the oil adaptor- one more thing to break and go wrong.
wow. im sure you know a pilot or two.. either that or your just getting grumpy.
having a license is awesome. i love it. it will only make you money if you have your commercial license, and can fly for hire... work for a corporation, airline, charter co. etc... as for now, it's really only good for expensive lunches, great views, and chicks dig it. oh, and taking day trips to nyc.... or to avoid traffic.. and can save you money on rare occassions.
if i flew from the airport .5 mile up the road to work (work on an airfield) i would save over an hour a day in commuting.
in a couple of years i will be co-piloting a GV.. aka Gulfstream V. because of where i work, i have the choice of getting typed in 2 of the nicest corp. jets on the market. it's going to take some time, and some money though. starting pay for a co-pilot of a GV is $75k a year.
as for the oil pressure and the hobbs, i have never heard differently. then again, flying airplanes registered/maintained with the air force are normally in top mechanical shape.. they don't take shortcuts when working on aircraft.